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Re: LDraw.org Bylaws Drafts: Call for Public Discussion and Consensus
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Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:13:19 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
   Is it really necessary to be a member of the steering committee in order for suggestions on the direction of the organisation to be heard and judged fairly?

I would think not, but I look to the steering committee to do a lot more than make (or hear) suggestions. It’s a deliberative body but also it needs to be a decision making body.

I see. I wasn’t clear on what role the LSC has. I’ve gone back over the posts dealing with that subject and understand it better now. Nevertheless, I still think it was a valid question.

  
   That said, Jake’s post made a lot of sense (it came through just after I wrote mine). It’s probably the most pragmatic approach presented thus far. For what it’s worth, I have no emotional investment in the final wording one way or the other. Like I said, I was just asking a question. I figured someone would take it the wrong way despite my best efforts at being diplomatic, I just didn’t think it’d be you Larry.

Well if you didn’t think it would be taken the right way by some of the audience, in advance, then maybe it did need a little more rewording, wouldn’t you agree?

Not really. It’s less to do with the way I worded it, and I did try to avoid this, and more to do with the nature of online forums and the participants thereof. Given the lack of emotional clues in a text only environment, there is a tendency to assume certain nonverbal content when it may not exist, or be entirely different from that which is assumed. I realise this happens no matter how carefully or diplomatically a post is worded, so I chose to give the benfit of the doubt and deal with any misinterpretations if they arise.



  
I’ll go back to what I challenged Dan with... if you want a blanket ban on LEGO employees (and not on any other employees of any other entity) show that all LEGO employees automatically have a conflict of interest so large as to be irreconcilable, and that no employees of *any* other entity have any other conflict of interest. (1)

Frankly, I’d vote FOR a LEGO exec (even with apparent huge conflicts of interest) before I’d vote FOR a MB exec who was at a corresponding level within MB. Or MS, or Intel, or etc... Not that I’d actually vote for either a LEGO or MB exec, that’s just making the point.

Else I think we should go with what’s been suggested by Wayne, by Jake, by others and by myself. Full disclosure of interests, then make it a campaign issue.

Like I said, I’m not that heavily invested one way or the other, but this seems to be the most pragmatic approach.


   I also design and sell custom kits. I’m a heavy user of LDraw tools for that. Does that mean I have a conflict of interest? Improvements in LDraw might give me the ability to design sets more efficiently. I would say, yes, I do have such a conflict of interest. But it’s a GOOD conflict, because what helps me out helps everyone else out too.

I would call that a convergence of interest, wouldn’t you?

Cheers,

Allister



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(...) I do apologise if I misinterpreted your words, but I would suggest that my interpretation is an extremely reasonable one given the word choices you used. (...) I would think not, but I look to the steering committee to do a lot more than make (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)

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