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Re: Who James Isn't (was:Re: New Castle Sucks (so far...)
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Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:43:19 GMT
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 05:45:31 GMT, Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu>
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> Jasper Janssen wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:34:03 GMT, Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu>
> > wrote:
> > > Jasper Janssen wrote:
<Snip Nena><I thought they only did that to males? -- Shut up, Pinky.>
> Thanks for typing those words--I've always been able to remember little swatches of the
> German version, but I can't think in German yet, so I always lose her after the first few
> stanzas.
To tell you the truth, I copied them off a random web page this time.
I didn't have the .mp3 handy, or I'd have typed it in.
> I assume you're Dutch, but you seem to Germanize a lot of things. Is that your first
> second language out of the five or six everyone in .nl seems to speak?
Nah, my second language is English, the third is French, and the
fourth is German. Fifth and sixth would be classical Greek and Latin,
if you count "very little knowledge" as being an xth language.
I only speak Dutch and English really well, and I can get by in french
and German, and I may be able to read Latin (though translating is
already beyond me, I've forgotten all the tenses and declinations ;)
), and I might be able to remember some of Greek.
The germanisations in my english is probably mostly the germanisations
from dutch that carry over.
> > In the Netherlands, fireworks may only be sold on the 29, 30, 31st,
> > under strict rules as to venue and size_of(firework), and they may
> > only be used between 24:00 and 1:00 on New Years' Day.
>
> Size_of(firework)? You do too much code. :) Maybe they should restrict that.
Nah.. Been seeing too much programmers, mostly. I don't even code in
that language myself (beyond the occasional DOS batch helper). Scary
to think I'm using that simply by osmosis now..
> There's a reason for that. Except for Indonesia, material administration was usually
> handed off to the British at some point--on the condition that Dutch business wasn't
> impinged upon. That's what happened in South Africa and in North America--so that when
> the real imperial problems began, the Dutch were "honest brokers" upon whom both sides
> could rely. It's not coincidence that (IIRC) Libya didn't nationalize Dutch assets when
> they siezed British and US ones.
They never told us that in school..
> German states and Germans have a tremendous amount to do with South Africa in the 19th and
> 20th centuries--South Africa considered defecting to Germany in both world wars. But the
> vital part is that Germans comprised much of the Boer states' bureaucracy and Germany held
> territory in Namibia and Tanzania--uncomfortably close to the minerally richest areas of
> Africa.
Hmm, I didn't know that. History is not a subject I'm too
knowledgeable about, especially post-16th-century or so. I've got the
background for later stuff, and details of ordinary life, but not the
intermediate between the two levels... My father is an archeologist
over in 's-Hertogenbosch, and part-time university prof in
castellology (aka the science of castles..) here at Utrecht U, so I've
been seeing medieval castles (2 on an average day, more if they were
small ones) on my holidays since I was a small child, and I tend to
absorb information over time. So I know quite a bit about living
conditions in medieval times, but I tend to lose track of event-based
history after, say, the Renaissance. By the way, did you ever see a
TV-series called 'Time Team'? Made by ITV or Channel Four, and
syndicated to Discovery Channel (at least here). It's a great series,
quite true to real-life archeology.
This is one case of few where the BBC really dropped the ball. The BBC
"meet the ancestors", which is very loosely built around the same
idea, is execrable compared to Time Team.
> Besides, look at my last name. That should tell you the other reason I'd want to go to
> Germany. ;)
Heh. So that was a recent evenmt, then? When I'm talking to a USAn, I
tend to disregard last names as indicators of origin -- there's just
not much point to it, on average ;)
> We never got over to Delft last summer--I hope to see it.
It's quite picturesque. Hell to drive or cycle in the innercity,
though. Many of the bridges over the various canals are still nearly
completely medieval, or at least very strongly based on their medieval
ancestors. Which means they're quite often 1-2 meters higher than
street level, like camel-humps..
You can go to the Grote Markt and eat "Pannekoeken Clinton": What The
Man Himself had when he was there (strawberries and whipped cream,
IIRC), and do all the other touristy things and visit the Porceleyne
Fles (where the Royal Delft is made), and if you have an interest in
modern architecture you can look at the University Great Hall.
The thing was originally built to {look like Battlestar Galactica}Erm,
I mean, be impressive. To that end, the entire front part of the
auditorium is suspended over the front entrance (think 15 * 7 meters
of concrete, some 10-15 meters high). Turns out, there were
significant numbers of people who feared going under there.. so they
molded two non-constructional conrete posts to visually support the
structure.
> That's OK--I can do without that. My girlfriend told me to go to the red light district
> in Amsterdam because "you've just got to see it for yourself once." What happened on my
See it, or use it?
> way to the red light district? I passed the office of the Nederlandse-Zuid-Afrikaanse
> Vereenige [sic] and had to stop in, and when I found out they had an archive on site,
> there went my whole day.
If you were going to the red light district by day, there's not much
point to it, is there?
Sometimes, it's till quite disconcerting to be driving to your medical
specialist, and having to go through a piece of road clearly marked in
official roadsigns "begin tippelzone 18:00-07:00" "eind tippelzone".
> Yes, I'm an eggheaded loser--unlike most academics, who would be sidetracked from an
> archive by carnal pleasures, I was sidetracked from pleasure by an archive. *sigh*
My vision of most academics is quite opposite to yours, apparently -
I'd expect most academics to act like you did.
> > I enjoy more the sort of pub where you can shoot some pool, throw some
> > darts, and do it all while enjoying a nice single malt.
>
> That's my feeling too. But watch out--drunkenness and darts don't mix. If you drink,
> don't dart. :)
Are you kidding? I never drink enough that aiming my darts in the
general direction of the board would be a problem. Whether this is
related to my skill or to my drinking habits is an issue you can see
for yourself...
> On the other hand, pool is always safe.
Those felt tablecloths don't exactly come cheap, you know... I agree
that it's harder to poke someone's eye out with pool, but it's still
quite possible.
Jasper
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