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Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:11:25 GMT
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Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: G8CJyH.BCq@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Arnold Staniczek writes:
> > > History is entirely about interpret-
> > > ation; there is no such thing as an objective fact in history,
> > > only prevailing interpretations based on the values and understandings
> > > of the historian
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> > Hm, let's see: Gerald Ford was a president of the U.S. Is this an objective historical fact or not?
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> We makes certain assumptions about its meaning. We (at least the
> Americans) will all understand these because we're in the same
> rhetorical system.
But don't you differentiate between the fact as such and the assumptions and conclusions you draw from it? To my understanding,
THERE ARE objective facts in history (see above).
Arnold
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| (...) There are two levels of mediation: That of the writer, and that of the reader. You and I may agree that Ford being President constitutes and objective fact because our reading (or your writing and my reading) are the same, or similar enough. I (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I think the main point here is that while some things can be objectively stated, their implications may be subject to historical context. For example, say 100 years from now, it would be true to say that Elizabeth II and Henry VIII were both (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) We makes certain assumptions about its meaning. We (at least the Americans) will all understand these because we're in the same rhetorical system. But why did you choose Ford? What is the context of the statement, both here and in terms of its (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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