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Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
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Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:44:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Arnold Staniczek writes:
History is entirely about interpret-
   ation; there is no such thing as an objective fact in history,
   only prevailing interpretations based on the values and understandings
   of the historian

Hm, let's see: Gerald Ford was a president of the U.S. Is this an objective historical fact or not?

   We makes certain assumptions about its meaning.  We (at least the
   Americans) will all understand these because we're in the same
   rhetorical system.  But why did you choose Ford?  What is the
   context of the statement, both here and in terms of its apparent
   content?  The fact is, in a sense, still subjective.  At its
   basest level it is true, but it has a context and a method of
   employment that render it subjective.  Within the selection and
   display of such a statement, all sorts of subjectivities are
   encoded.  And that's even before I get to Derrida and the idea
   of what image forms in our minds when we hear a statement! (I
   always, always, *always* see that Simpsons episode..."Do you
   like beer, Homer?")

   It's not necessarily a bad thing, it just "is".  Sometimes the
   encoded values are more obvious than others--the more obvious we
   tend to call "propaganda," but the line is extremely thin.  I do
   read histories written in the 1920s that are now extremely opaque
   with value-laden, though "factual", statements that were entirely
   transparent at the time they were written.

   best,

   LFB



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  Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
 
Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: G8CJyH.BCq@lugnet.com... (...) But don't you differentiate between the fact as such and the assumptions and conclusions you draw from it? To my understanding, THERE ARE objective facts (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Hm, let's see: Gerald Ford was a president of the U.S. Is this an objective historical fact or not? Am I missing something? Arnold (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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