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Re: Problems with Darwin's theory
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Arnold Staniczek writes:
> > History is entirely about interpret-
> > ation; there is no such thing as an objective fact in history,
> > only prevailing interpretations based on the values and understandings
> > of the historian
>
> Hm, let's see: Gerald Ford was a president of the U.S. Is this an objective historical fact or not?
We makes certain assumptions about its meaning. We (at least the
Americans) will all understand these because we're in the same
rhetorical system. But why did you choose Ford? What is the
context of the statement, both here and in terms of its apparent
content? The fact is, in a sense, still subjective. At its
basest level it is true, but it has a context and a method of
employment that render it subjective. Within the selection and
display of such a statement, all sorts of subjectivities are
encoded. And that's even before I get to Derrida and the idea
of what image forms in our minds when we hear a statement! (I
always, always, *always* see that Simpsons episode..."Do you
like beer, Homer?")
It's not necessarily a bad thing, it just "is". Sometimes the
encoded values are more obvious than others--the more obvious we
tend to call "propaganda," but the line is extremely thin. I do
read histories written in the 1920s that are now extremely opaque
with value-laden, though "factual", statements that were entirely
transparent at the time they were written.
best,
LFB
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| Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: G8CJyH.BCq@lugnet.com... (...) But don't you differentiate between the fact as such and the assumptions and conclusions you draw from it? To my understanding, THERE ARE objective facts (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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