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Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin
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Mon, 2 Jan 2006 03:21:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Yoder wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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So, you are saying that our current government has brought devastation to
our country and the world, is that correct?
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Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! Mostly economic and social destuction,
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Economic destruction? All I’ve seen is 2 of the most horrific economic
disasters strike during Bush’s tenure (9-11 and Katrina, neither of which can be
attributed to the Bush Administration), and yet our economy still grows. To
what economic indicators are you referring?
As far as social destruction, I agree that our society is in serious moral
decline, but I don’t think our government’s policies are to blame.
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but
in Iraq physical destruction as well!
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The price of freedom isn’t cheap. Isn’t Iraq better off now than under SH?
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Recently South Korean farmers publicly
commited suicide as an act of protest against flooding their countries
markets with cheap American produce, which would destroy their livelihood and
way of life.
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Who is forcing them to buy it? Are you blaming US producers for producing
products cost-effectively?
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We have already badly damaged Latim American economies with
unfair trade arrangements.
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I’m sorry, but Latin American economic woes cannot be laid at our feet.
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We are unpopular in the world due to our
destructive political end economic practices, not because they are envious of
the MTV.The world is in the process of constructing an economic trade system
that is independant of the American one, with the strenthening Euro likely to
replace the Dollar as the standard measurement of trade.
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I wish them good luck. I’ll still trust good ol’ supply and demand to set
prices.
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China’s economy is
growing at an unheard of rate of 10% a year, and has been for the last 25.
They are making energy deals with Venezuala, Russia, and the Mideast markets
which make the U.S. government very nervous.
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How do you think China’s government will react when they can’t afford oil
when they have to pay market price for it? I think that’s grounds for being
nervous.
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This whole mess we’ve made in
Iraq
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I guess one man’s mess is another man’s freedom.
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in the name of 911 and security has to do with grabbing as much of a
dwindling oil supply as we can,
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All the while ignoring ANWR? I don’t buy it.
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while in the process showing the world that
we are the sole surviving superpower with a badass military, and we’re not
afraid to use it!
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The world already knows that-- there are just some Islamo-Facists who only
understand absolute power who are too blinkered to grasp this short of an
in-home demonstration.
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If your not convinced that oil was the reason, then why is
the U.S. recieving 70% of the oil produced in Iraq, the world’s fifth largest
proven reserve, when pre-war we we’re revieving 0%?
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Because SH was in bed with France and Russia. And let me say: we are not just
taking that oil; we are paying for it. The Iraqis need $$$, not millions of
barrels of oil.
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and the cost of gasoline
has increased 900% for Iraqi citizens, and they have to import it?
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Not sure to what you are referring here.
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The concequences of our actions haven’t quite made it stateside yet, but the
story isn’t over yet either.
In case you think I’m just a Bush basher, I don’t particularly discern much
between the parties- they essentially have the same goal, just slightly
different ways to approach them. Both are beholden to corporate interests at
the expence of the citizen .
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As corporations go, so goes America. We as citizens are, in fact, their most
precious resource.
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Thank God 2005 is over!
Lets hope the world fairs a little better in 2006.
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How about a lot better! :-)
JOHN
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) First of all, you gotta think globally for a minute. Believe it or not, there's a whole world out there beyond our borders, and our actions have consequences that can be felt throughout. But now that you mention OUR economy, to what indicators (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! Mostly economic and social destuction, but in Iraq physical destruction as well! Recently South Korean farmers publicly commited suicide as an act of protest against flooding their countries markets with cheap (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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