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Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin
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Fri, 23 Dec 2005 03:22:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pete White wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Allister McLaren wrote:

   this post>. I wanted to see if I could render the ‘theme’ in a less offensive, more comical way, with a more accomplished model. The aim is not to stir up controversy, but to see if the space nazis can be done without stirring it up.

Dude. Nazism and Nazi symbols are offensive to Germans. Period. What is so hard to understand about that? Your little science project is doomed from the beginning. I mean, shesh-- imagery like that is illegal in a Democratic State, for crying out loud. What’s funny about that?

Menstruating women may find the use of ‘Period’ in a one word sentence offensive.

Ironically, I’d bet more women would find your statement more offensive than mine.

   Whatever happened to the ‘German Democratic Republic’ ?

I used the indefinite article, meaning that in a free democratic state, there is draconian intolerance on this issue, so one should conclude that they people in that state are pretty serious about that issue.
  
   <snip>

  
Well it’s not a new idea to make a joke out of nazism. Mel Brooks

He’s a Jew. Different issues there.

   and Hogan’s Heroes spring to mind.

That show is about forty years old.

Available on cable/satellite channel TV1 at 3pm this arvo (in Australia).

  
   I personally don’t think any subject should be out of bounds for humour, but it depends a lot on the execution. I’m hoping I carried it off well enough, but that’s ultimately up to the audience.


Not for any German audience I suspect. Just as only blacks can call each other the N-word, and Jews have “permission” to joke about Jews, I would guess that only a German would have any hope of making light of that subject, and certainly not an outsider from Aussie.

Israel seems to have ‘permission’ to occupy part of Palestine.

Yeah, it’s called self-preservation.

   Plenty of ‘outsider’ Australians died in both World Wars in Europe, North Africa and South East Asia.

I was specifically referring to Allister. Is Allister a vet of WWII? Are you implying that he has earned a right somehow to make jokes about Nazis?

   Some Australians may find the use of ‘aussie’ patronising in this context.

I thought it was a term of endearment. All the time I saw Australians at the Sydney Olympics chanting “AussieAussieAussie!” I found it charming. YMMV.

  
   I categorically can’t find it funny because I know that it offends Germans. Hey, just for kicks-- go post your MOC on 1000Steine and see what happens. If that idea gives you pause, then maybe there are some deeper issues to which you are oblivious and should have addressed before you embarked on your build.

JOHN

Gospel according to ‘bold’ John.

Naw-- there’s already one of those.

JOHN



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(...) Holy crap! Now only WWII veterans can make jokes about Nazis? You've really got your work cut out for you now. (...) Only Australians are allowed to use it. From USAians it's deeply offensive. a (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Menstruating women may find the use of 'Period' in a one word sentence offensive. Whatever happened to the 'German Democratic Republic' ? (...) Available on cable/satellite channel TV1 at 3pm this arvo (in Australia). (...) Israel seems to (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  

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