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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Allister McLaren wrote:
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this post>. I wanted to see if I could render the ‘theme’ in a less
offensive, more comical way, with a more accomplished model. The aim is not
to stir up controversy, but to see if the space nazis can be done without
stirring it up.
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Dude. Nazism and Nazi symbols are offensive to Germans. Period. What is
so hard to understand about that? Your little science project is doomed from
the beginning. I mean, shesh-- imagery like that is illegal in a
Democratic State, for crying out loud. What’s funny about that?
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So, if I understand you correctly, only innoffensive and legal things are
appropriate subjects for humour?
News to me, and almost every comedian on the planet.
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Well it’s not a new idea to make a joke out of nazism. Mel Brooks
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He’s a Jew. Different issues there.
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Maybe for you.
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and Hogan’s
Heroes spring to mind.
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That show is about forty years old.
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The war was even longer ago than that. I’m not sure where you’re coming from
here.
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I personally don’t think any subject should be out of
bounds for humour, but it depends a lot on the execution. I’m hoping I
carried it off well enough, but that’s ultimately up to the audience.
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Not for any German audience I suspect. Just as only blacks can call each
other the N-word, and Jews have “permission” to joke about Jews, I would
guess that only a German would have any hope of making light of that subject,
and certainly not an outsider from Aussie.
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That sounds a bit racist, John.
Explain to me exactly how your opinion as an outsider from the USA carries more
weight?
Would you be happier if I made a joke moc about the genocide on the Australian
Aborigianls?
Also, please don’t make any assumptions about my background. You have no way of
knowing whether or not the holocaust effected me or my family at all.
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I categorically can’t find it funny because I know that it offends Germans.
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Can’t you make up your own mind? Don’t worry about the Germans, John. I’m sure
they’ll let me know if it does offend them. Does it offend you? Being offended
on behalf of people you don’t know is pretty arrogant imo.
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Hey, just for kicks-- go post your MOC on 1000Steine and see what happens.
If that idea gives you pause, then maybe there are some deeper issues to
which you are oblivious and should have addressed before you embarked on your
build.
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I won’t, but not because of the reasons you think. If I was a member and regular
poster there, and understood German, I wouldn’t hesitate to post it there. I
have no compunctions about making a joke on taboo subjects. But I’m not a
member, and doing it would just be trolling.
But all this moot. This moc and comic is pure spoof. You are the one making
all these negative associations, and that is your choice. I can’t help it if
your own prejudices limit your ability to appreciate a joke.
And in closing: Whateva.
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| (...) Gentleman, you both make compelling arguments. I take Allister at his word on his motivations. He was pretty clear about that. I also trust that John is speaking his mind on the subject. He was pretty clear about that. Let's just not fault (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No, you don't understand me correctly. (...) Which part? And what is "a bit racist" as opposed to simply "racist"? Sorry, I just think that that term is getting a little overused these days... (...) I can't, because it doesn't. Never said it (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Dude. Nazism and Nazi symbols are offensive to Germans. Period. What is so hard to understand about that? Your little science project is doomed from the beginning. I mean, shesh-- imagery like that is illegal in a Democratic State, for crying (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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