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Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin
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Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:41:47 GMT
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Are you saying that trying to understand things is a bad idea?

Just evil.

Like schizophrenics?

  
   At one point schizophrenics were considered “evil” and “possessed” and even if they had done no harm to anyone they would be persecuted and worse. Fortunately people have learnt to understand that form of “evil” and it is now rightfully considered an illness.

So are you implying that one day we will totally understand evil?

No. But I’m saying that “evil” isn’t always as it appears. Sometimes someone who claims to have been controlled by demons is a liar, sometimes he hasn’t been given the correct medicine.

This simplistic worldview that you Conservatives (and particularly religious Conservatives) tend to adopt scares the bejesus out of me. If it was up to people like you we’d have minimal science and appalling medicine.

  
   So are you proposing that we should censor stuff for a minority population? That goes against most of the arguments I’ve seen you make before. I’m glad to see you’re adopting a less Conservative perspective on things ;)

Not at all. I am proposing self-censorship; in other words acting civilized and responsibly. It is the same old stuff I’ve been ranting about for years:-)

   As for minors, I don’t see that they are going to be in any way harmed by blatant satires of Nazism. Perhaps you could elaborate on this point?

Satire is a mature kind of humor which is often if not always beyond minors. Good satire assumes a knowledge base that minors usually haven’t reached yet. So without any true understanding of a satirical MOC of a swastika, they just see a MOC of a swastika and a tacit understanding that use of such symbols is normative. Minors see AFOLs post using expletives. Ahh, that must be okay, too.

Posting on the net is analogous to having a face to face conversation. Responsible adults wouldn’t have adult themed conversations within earshot of a minor, nor would they engage in adult activities in view of a minor. So why does all personal responsibility go out the window when it comes to the net?

JOHN

You seem to give children’s intelligence and comprehension a lot less credit than I do which is probably the major difference between you and I on this topic. I won’t swear around young children but I suspect my age tolerances are lower than yours.

I do, however, argue that net policing is up to individual parents, not the denizens of forums. eg. Lugnet does not have a child audience policy and any child who is here is here because they are allowed to be (either through choice by their parents or neglect).

Tim



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(...) Just evil. (...) So are you implying that one day we will totally understand evil? (...) Not at all. I am proposing self-censorship; in other words acting civilized and responsibly. It is the same old stuff I've been ranting about for years:-) (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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