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Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin
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Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:54:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Allister McLaren wrote:
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this post>. I wanted to see if I could render the ‘theme’ in a less
offensive, more comical way, with a more accomplished model. The aim is not
to stir up controversy, but to see if the space nazis can be done without
stirring it up.
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Dude. Nazism and Nazi symbols are offensive to Germans. Period. What is so
hard to understand about that? Your little science project is doomed from the
beginning. I mean, shesh-- imagery like that is illegal in a Democratic
State, for crying out loud. What’s funny about that?
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Well it’s not a new idea to make a joke out of nazism. Mel Brooks
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He’s a Jew. Different issues there.
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and Hogan’s
Heroes spring to mind.
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That show is about forty years old.
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I personally don’t think any subject should be out of
bounds for humour, but it depends a lot on the execution. I’m hoping I
carried it off well enough, but that’s ultimately up to the audience.
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Not for any German audience I suspect. Just as only blacks can call each other
the N-word, and Jews have “permission” to joke about Jews, I would guess that
only a German would have any hope of making light of that subject, and certainly
not an outsider from Aussie.
I categorically can’t find it funny because I know that it offends Germans.
Hey, just for kicks-- go post your MOC on 1000Steine and see what happens. If
that idea gives you pause, then maybe there are some deeper issues to which you
are oblivious and should have addressed before you embarked on your build.
JOHN
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Message has 6 Replies:
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| --SNIP-- (...) I disagree with that Period you've got there. The recent film The Downfall seemed to be fairly well received (URL) (...) He didn't experience the Nazis as far as I know so I disagree that his racial background justifies his right to (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) What about the Jewish community? One might think they'd be offended, too. But points for looking out for people's feelings. Let's see, who else could be offended? I imagine Asians might be offended, because it reminds them of how the symbol (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| Hello! (...) You are right. Many Germans are offended by this topis. Either because they think it's inappropriate to make fun about, or because they constantly assume they are supposed to feel guilty. I'm not offended, though, I'm just curious. (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It's not as clear-cut as that. I agree that humour can and should push the boundaries of taste and I'm deeply concerned when people imply that humour can be derived from certain subjects only by certain groups. We laugh often because we are (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) So, if I understand you correctly, only innoffensive and legal things are appropriate subjects for humour? News to me, and almost every comedian on the planet. (...) Maybe for you. (...) The war was even longer ago than that. I'm not sure (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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| (...) Menstruating women may find the use of 'Period' in a one word sentence offensive. Whatever happened to the 'German Democratic Republic' ? (...) Available on cable/satellite channel TV1 at 3pm this arvo (in Australia). (...) Israel seems to (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Thanks, but it was pasted directly from babblefish, which also explains the slightly mangled translation. (...) Cheers (...) My interest has less to do with nazism itself than the reaction displaying it's symbols still generates even today. (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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