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Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:30:00 GMT
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Actually, I think you’ll find the considered merit of ideas have quite
distinct nationalities. For example most of the developed world considers
the idea of capital punishment abhorrent and barbaric whilst the USA
considers it to be in important part of the justice system. That suggests to
me that the considered merit of the idea is strongly dependant on
nationality.
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I disagree. Your perception that the USA is in any way unified on the topic
of capital punishment is incorrect-- just ask ==>Bruce<== or Dave!
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I never said it was unified, but I believe a majority of USAians support it (and
thus, through democratic process the USA supports it) in principle at the least
and a significantly higher proportion believe in the practise of it than in any
other country. I have read statistics to this effect before and would argue that
in a democratic country the policy of the government will tend to represent the
majority but I’m afraid I can’t find any sources with real numbers at the moment
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It’s funny. Ask any American how they feel about capital punishment; I would
guess most people would tend to be against it. Then ask what should be the
fate of
this “man” and they’d probably offer to throw the switch themselves.
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Which is the difference between an ethical response and an emotive response and
not particularly relavent to the discussion.
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I can think of many similar examples such as the considered merit of
social-democratic economic models (considered highly important by most
Scandinavians) and the importance of privacy (quite different views between
Anglophone nations and European nations for the most part).
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Personally, I’m for what works. Socialism, Communism, Totalitarianism don’t
work. Our system, though far from perfect, is far superior [1] to any
other iteration thus far implimented.
JOHN
[1] In terms of economic power, military power, scientific breakthroughs,
productivity, among others.
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That’s an interesting analysis and doesn’t really argue against what I was
saying (some could tenuously argue it supports my point).
To keep with your off topic argument though: Arguing that socialism doesn’t work
is a patently false argument. For example, the USA has the worlds least
efficient health care service even though it is largely based around a
capitalist system. Likewise highly socialist Norway is a richer country on just
about any system of measurement than the USA.
But then, maybe socialism only works in some countries and not others.
Tim
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| (...) It is currently a state issue, not a federal one. Some states have the death penalty, some don't (16 of 50 don't I believe). (...) I only mention it to illustrate how hard it is to get a response on the death penalty were one to try and take a (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I disagree. Your perception that the USA is in any way unified on the topic of capital punishment is incorrect-- just ask ==>Bruce<== or Dave! It's funny. Ask any American how they feel about capital punishment; I would guess most people would (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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