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Re: Not the right way to exit?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:40:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> And, make no mistake we're losing it. This is a significant defeat, I think.
What is the war for? What would constitute a victory? A defeat?
> This WAS an unimportant war before it started...
> but if the US loses it, it's a defeat for the US, so it has become an important
> one to win. And I don't see how it CAN be won, any more.
Is that to say that it is somehow critically important for the US to win every
war? Is it possible that it would be good for the American gestalt psyche for
us to lose a few? Maybe it would make us ask a few questions before going in.
> How much better it would have been to have chosen not to fight this one in the
> first place.
I guess. Actually, I'm not convinced. There are bad people in the world doing
bad things to others. If we have the power to stop that, do we have the
responsibility? I just think we need to set win-loss standards and make them
happen. If we knew what a win would look like before going in, we could more
accurately judge our likelihood of success.
Chris
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| (...) These questions should have already been asked, and were asked, by those that compared this to the similarities to the Vietnam war--but those were brushed aside as 'unpatriotic'. The difference here is that, whereas the US evacuation in '75 (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I liked Dave K's response here, so this is just embellishment. As long as we bill ourselves as the world's policeman it is. As soon as cops can't enforce, they lose their power. That's where we are now. But that's the wrong reason. We should (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Most of you know I am no fan of our present little war. However: (URL) that seems the wrong way to exit. Those who point out that this action shows that threatening hostages to try to influence countries is now more likely rather than less have a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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