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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
> When the founding fathers of the USA
> wrote the constitution, they understood far more than the present govt what
> "rights" mean. The right to freedom, the right to egality... And freedom?
> Bush is not even close to understand the basic meaning or that word. He
> thinks freedom is being able to do what you want, but the true meaning is
> far more complex and it does involve some restrictions.
You're on the right track, but (if you'll forgive me) I think your
assessment misses the real problem. Bush and Ashcroft and Cheney and the
rest (and Clinton et al, to be fair) know EXACTLY what rights are, and
that's why they're working so hard to curtail them. Bush is dumb, yes, but
it's dangerous to dismiss his agenda as his simple misunderstanding of basic
elements of government.
> I'll stop believing it when I'll see a black person as President, or even as
> candidate for the Democrats (Republicans would rather die than have a black
> person as their candidate). Or a woman. Or a divorced man with a son that
> lives with the mother. Or better yet, someone who openly say that [he
> believes that] God doesn't exist. Or a gay man. Anything. But as far as I
> can remember, all candidates were rich married caucasian man believing in
> God. Now that's a democraty!
Well now you're just talking about fantasy land. I wouldn't say that the
Republicans won't field a black presidential candidate--Colin Powell would
have been a popular choice if he'd been interested. Elizabeth Dole also had
rumblings of possible candidacy before the 2000 campaign. Granted,
Republicans won't nominate Al Sharpton or Susan Sarandon, but...
Dave!
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