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Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> Terry Prosper wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> > > I'll grant that the average person on the street isn't applying critical
> > > thinking, and probably even many of us "smart" folks take the easy way
> > > out frequently, but someone has to keep their mind open. Personally, I
> > > don't think it actually takes a lot of people to keep things on an even
> > > keel. For one thing, all you really need to do is convince one of the
> > > major parties that your view is correct, and suddenly, you get all those
> > > sheep voting for your view, then you just have to convince enough of the
> > > critical thinkers (who probably sit in the middle between the two
> > > parties) that your view is right.
> >
> > But it doesn't make it better, because you could be wrong and all those
> > sheeps would follow the wrong leader, just as it's the case with Bush and
> > his followers. Your argument is biased by the fact you think (or give the
> > impression that you think) that the good will always win. The truth is that
> > people will often not take the best decision. If you only need to convince
> > one of the parties that you are right, it's the same for the "bad guys".
> > That's what Hitler did. And we all know what he did.
>
> I may be missing something, but the way I'm reading it, you're saying
> that we might as well not critically think about things because
> sometimes the masses will choose the wrong action, thus, since it's a
> total crap shoot as to whether a good or bad decision is made, we might
> as well not bother trying to find the best decision.
>
> Frank
Not what I meant at all. All I meant was that having these discussions will
have very little impact since people are dumb and will often follow the best
leader (which I didn't mention). Now, the smart people are not necessarily
going to change their minds either, because it takes a lot of humility to
admit you were wrong, so changing opinions is seldom.
Of course, I believe in discussions. I believe in debates, free speach,
everything like that. But I also believe it's futile for most people and
that the power of speech is exagerated. People, intelligent or not, will
often fight for their opinion just because they don't want to admit they can
be wrong.
But of course, I could be wrong... ;-)
Terry
www.rotule.qc.ca
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