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Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time.
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Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:57:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes:
> > We can trade zingers, Scott, but the real point is do you believe Bush is
> > honestly trying to arrange a real democracy, or just have a "regime change"
> > more to his liking? I believe it is the latter, which may be good or bad I
> > suppose, I just wish he wouldn't lie about it.
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> Perhaps I am a bit gullible but I tend to believe that our leaders are not
> lying. I even believed Clinton, who I felt was a pathological liar, when he
> said that bombing Iraq was in the interest of national security. I have
> always believed the cliché that politics end at the waters end. When it
> comes down to it I easily trust GWB over Husein.
I think Bush tells himself what he wants to hear and then convinces himself
that it is true. "To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the
night the day, thou cannot be false to any man." Perhaps you are reacting
to his own deception of himself (or perhaps I'm over-analyzing and just full
of it). Clinton knows when he is stretching the truth: he deceives us, but
not himself (so much for Shakespeare). I don't think Bush understands when
he is rationalizing to himself. Hussein is just plain evil, but at a
certain level, I think he is predictable.
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> As for you question about GWB, I do believe that he would like to help setup
> a representative government similar to what happened in Afghanistan.
> History, however, reminds me that the United States has been fairly
> unsuccessful at exporting democracy. I hope and pray for it, but history
> also reminds me that oppressed people when freed, tend to become oppressors
> themselves.
Afghanistan has a representative government?
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> Finally, I like to find the humor in world events, the Florida election
> fiasco was hilarious to me, especially the video of that bald guy straining
> his eyes looking at the chads. My new favorite scene is the Iraqi minister
> of dis-information claiming that they had beaten the Coalition back and that
> no American’s were in the city, all the while gunfire could be heard in the
> background. I am truly sad to see him go, but am very happy that it looks
> like this conflict is nearly over, with fewer American casualties than in 1991.
Yeah, the Iraqi Minister of Disinformation is a classic. The Arab world
eats him up though, because he says what they want to hear - but I look at
that example and have to ask myself if I am doing the same with our news
sources. Keeps you on your feet, at least.
-->Bruce<--
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