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Re: Some other perspectives on the tragedy
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > Sure. Create more martyrs. Great Idea. This sounds like the Israeli model to
> > deal with terrorists. Does it work for them?
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> Just in case you didn't notice "they" (terrorists) just made Martyrs out of
> thousands of people on 09/11/2001. That was as much a mistake for them as it
> was for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor 12/07/1941.
We do not share the same understanding of the term "martyr".
> We have Martyrs too and we will take appropriate actions. They will fight back
> and we know that, so be it. We (the free world) will prevail.
Then what? Will the deaths continue in Iraq and Israel? Will globalisation
continue to exploit those in the developing world? Should we nurture
despair? Should we live in fear? Should we prepare our children for future
attacks?
Scott A
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> Eric Kingsley
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| (...) Obviously... (...) Much of this sounds like jibber jabber. As for preparing out children for future attacks I think we need to prepare them for the fact that this is a reality in the world and we are going to fight it. That means more people (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Just in case you didn't notice "they" (terrorists) just made Martyrs out of thousands of people on 09/11/2001. That was as much a mistake for them as it was for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor 12/07/1941. We have Martyrs too and we will take (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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