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Re: Some other perspectives on the tragedy
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Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:38:16 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Dave Johann writes:
> In lugnet.general, David Simmons writes:
> > Hey everybody,
> >
> > We must not forget the people who died, but we should also
> > remember that responding to violence with more violence will not make things
> > better.
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> > David Simmons
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> > http://www.zmag.org/ZNET.htm
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> I don't fully agree. No more terrorists=no more terrorist acts. Somehow, these
> fanatics need to understand 'Don't mess with us, or we'll take you down
> permanently'.
Correction: Terrorists are *made.* They're not born that way.
It takes a *lot* of perceived injustice for someone to cross that
line. If we want to stop terrorism, we have two choices:
understanding and the rule of law or militarization and violence.
I'm not optimistic we'll pick the right one, the way the sabres
are being rattled. Indiscriminate vengeance will radicalize those
still in the center, and seemingly validate the words of those
already on the fringe, and we won't see it coming just like we
didn't see it coming in Tehran in 1979.
> Right now, we're a laughing stock in Iraq because Saddam is still
> doing as he pleases. Is this fair or right? Nope. Think about the last time he
> stepped out of line. Some amount of violence is needed to keep the fanatics of
> the world in check.
Perhaps. But we must make certain that in meting out "justice"
we don't *ourselves* become violent fanatics. Don't underestimate
that possibility--just listen to call-in talk radio any night this
week and see what I mean. We're at a crossroads, and frankly I'm
very afraid for the future.
I only pray that I'm wrong. I prefer to focus on the miracle that's
happening all throughout the New York area, the truly heartwrenching
spectacle of people doing so much for others they wouldn't even have
given the time of day to just 48 hours ago. That's the *true* spirit
of America, and the true source of our strength.
best
LFB
(naturally, keep this in .debate)
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| (...) Yeah, me too. I stand with my countrymen who also stand for peace. If we succumb to reacting from our passions rather than acting out of reason and love for our fellows then we have lost everything already. If our brothers and sisters on this (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I agree that terrorists are made, but what exactly makes them? You claim they have perceived injustices against them. I keep hearing them referring to us as devils. We buy their products, offer aid, preach peace and still find terrorists (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) fanatics need to understand 'Don't mess with us, or we'll take you down permanently'. Right now, we're a laughing stock in Iraq because Saddam is still doing as he pleases. Is this fair or right? Nope. Think about the last time he stepped out (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.general)
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