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(...) I would say he would be someone's bitch before the bus rolls to a stop when he arrives. Jude (19 years ago, 31-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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How long Eric would last in prison?! He seems to think he'd be punching people out. I don't think he would last very long. It's a wonder he has been tolerated here. I doubt he would be tolerated anywhere else. I know that I'm just throwing gasoline (...) (19 years ago, 31-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Lar. I love you too. :kiss: I would like to add that since this post, I've had a flood of applications of people wanting to join the 'gang of trolls'. These applications are currently under consideration and I'll post an updated list un (...) (19 years ago, 31-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow! Such a short list! And no sign of the esteemed Messers Dulin or Arthur! Oh and you seem to have omitted your list of anti-trolls. ROSCO (19 years ago, 31-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That might be YOUR list of trolls but it's not mine. Mine is much shorter Allister, Soren, Ross I mean, really... putting kind, helpful, courteous, and thoughtful David Koudys in the same list as Allister? That's a bit of a stretch. Hope that (...) (19 years ago, 30-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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(...) Hmmm, well lets list this so-called "Gang of trolls" shall we? (In no particular order) (URL) Timothy Gould> (URL) Soren Roberts> (URL) Mark Neumann> (URL) David Koudys> (URL) Jeff Stembel> (URL) Keith Goldman> (URL) Bryce McGlone> (URL) (...) (19 years ago, 30-Mar-06, to lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No Paul, you are not speaking only for yourself. It's a safe bet that you are speaking for virtually all women. I'd say much of the righteous indignation in this thread is misplaced. And I also agree with LFB, Lugnet sure ain't what it used to (...) (19 years ago, 30-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, FTX) !
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(...) Is this in fact what Jeremy was refering to? (URL) know LUGNET doesn't have a list of "okay swearwords", but I'd think if stated as "BS" it'd go by unnoticed. I haven't read every post in this thread yet, just the ones which have come through (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Is that a 'no' to the first statement, second or both? Legoswami (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No, you suck too. (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By posting it in .geek are you implying Tim is a geek or are you trying to defy us evil oppressors again by posting it in the wrong group? Just asking. Legoswami (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But they also don't believe there isn't a god. Could you call it 'soft religion'? (...) Surely it only takes the exposing of one 'ungodly' act to discredit anyone using belief in god as an election platform. How hard could that be? a (19 years ago, 27-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Pull your head in. If you've got issues with people polluting lugnet, take it up with Eric, not me. Your post is no different to mine, I just happen to take a more satirical tack than just telling people to 'shut up'. Have a nice day. a (19 years ago, 27-Mar-06, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That wasn't made clear from the initial post, nor the bump post. My telepathy is a little sketchy at the moment, and I wasn't able to divine that from the random pictures of non-lego cars on 'scenery' that any six year old would be proud of (...) (19 years ago, 27-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I've heard the argument that since an agnostic doesn't actively believe in god, they are technically a subset of atheists. I might call it 'soft atheism' versus 'hard atheism.' This is actually something I've been thinking about recently. How (...) (19 years ago, 24-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: The Ultimate Discussion (was: Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!)
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(...) Ahhh, but see is unrestrained murder of thousands of your subjects "more ultimate" than the murder of the guy that breaks into your house? If so, how can murder be the "ultimate crime"? If not, why do they carry different sentences? (...) (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol, my veiled point was making a distinction between the definition of the term "atheism" and one such as "agnostic", which I assume that you are (technically). JOHN (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Probably true, and it's a shame. We've discussed Pat Robertson before, and what a shame it would be if he were everyone's idea of a "typical" Christian. (...) I hear that all the time, and it baffles me! Besides, I've told you before--if it (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ha, and that study was conducted in my own backyard! I think this is a classic case of misunderstanding. As an atheist, you have been tarred by the likes of Michael Newdow, from whom I'll bet 99% of the GP draw their conclusions about y'all. I (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) are not to be trusted... Dave! (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | The Ultimate Discussion (was: Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!)
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(...) Now, now, settle down, Dave! I'm pretty sure that the word "ultimate" pre-existed some apocryphal, presidential playbook and no association with OFL whatsoever was intended. (...) Let's see. (...) See? You got it on the first try! :-) (...) (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!
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(...) All that "ultimate punishment" talk is, alas, straight from the George W. Bush buzzword lexicon. In typical Dubya fashion, it enables him to sound tough without actually taking a definitive stand. Since I know you to be a person of conviction (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, Tom, let me take a stab at justifying a position such as this one. A pro-life stance would hold that a human life above all is sacred. So, the ultimate crime would be the taking of an innocent life. Therefore, the ultimate punishment (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Honest question - which is more ridiculous? 1 - pro-life and pro-death-penalty 2 - pro-choice and anti-death-penalty I don't know, but I see far too many conservatives that fit #1, which makes little sense. And of course I see a decent amount of (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Yeah, O'Reilly uses his radio program to say things he wouldn't say on the telly, and vice versa--in this way, he can claim he didn't say something bigotted or factually wrong on whatever (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ahh, I forgot to factor in O'Reilly. I didn't even know he had a radio program. As for Howard, well, he is the poster child for much that is S & R [1] with our country. JOHN [1] Sick and Wrong (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Good guess, but actually, it was a not-so-stern jab at Bill O'Reilly. I'm not sure, but I don't think that Howard currently has a primetime show. And anyway, he's more of a kvetcher than a whiner. Dave! (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But if you go there, don't tell them that you know John, or you'll be summarily booted. Dave! (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!
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(...) See Sore Thumbs (the webcomic) lately. I'd give you a link but not from behind this firewall... (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry. That was an inside reference to Dave! I was referring to the (URL) Democratic Underground>. (...) You could have a sample size of 1,000,000, but if it isn't random, then it is worthless. Berkeley is arguabley the most liberal place in (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's an inside joke between Mr. Neal and me. Nothing to do, incidentally, with discussions of the UN Embassy in Denmark, which we have all "let go." (...) I don't know about that last part, but a sample of 2,000 kids growing up in a famously (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--SNIP-- (...) ???? (...) Disagree. One hundred people is a decent amount (error is proportional to 1/sqrt(sample size)). Besides, if the sample size was considered inadequate in a statistical sense by the experts in the field who review the paper (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol For the record, I signed up again with yet another email addy, and was summarily nuked; they must checking IPs. I have officially given up life in the underground. Pity. (...) Agreed. (...) I wasn't a whiney child (so I'm told), and I did (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I read about this on a certain Other Forum and basically said "eh." It's a too-small sample size from a too-small geographic area. I'd say it's close to meaningless, and in any case the factors of adolescent life and parental leanings likely (...) (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Would you explain what points you disagree with? It seems a fairly narrow but objective study to me and a surpringly well written science article about the study. Tim (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm shocked. I'm also kidding. The most interesting thing to me about (URL) study> is the motivation of the researchers. When the day is done and the results are in, it simply amounts to patting oneself on the back. This is research? JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Thoughts on the UN "Racist" poster?
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(...) What-- is it "Sarcasm Day" down there? (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well good naturedness was certainly the overwhelming impression I came away with from your post. a (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is this yet another example of your "obvious sarcasm"? JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, at least I was good natured enough to have made my sarcasm obvious. Your comment borders incivility. ROSCO (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, at least I was good natured enough to have included a smiley. Your comment borders incivility. JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Time to let it go. Really. ROSCO (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Time to let it go. Really. JOHN (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The UN doesn't have embassies, as far as I know. (19 years ago, 22-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Are you serious, or is that just a turn of phrase? ROSCO (19 years ago, 21-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dejure it's out of copyright/trademark, true, but defacto it will be LEGO that will be influenced the most by any ill will engendered. Most people's first thought, I would expect, would be "hey those are legos" (with some small subset thinking (...) (19 years ago, 21-Mar-06, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: The Brick Testament's entirely unnacceptable intellectual dishonesty
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Just wanted to chime in again and say I appreciate your thoughtful response to my concerns. I also wanted to say I really enjoy your work, even when I don't agree with the commentary and editing decisions. And I look forward to more entries. Thanks, (...) (19 years ago, 13-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hi, Bruce. Thanks for the comments on this matter, too. I will probably redo the Acts story as part of my revamp of the New Testament part of the site, and will add the missing panels there as well. I think it's not just that it would be (...) (19 years ago, 7-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hey Brendan, I appreciate the fact that you added the final two illustrations to the Canaanite woman story. I think that it was right to do so, as to leave those out seriously misrepresented the story. While your commentary on how everyone selects (...) (19 years ago, 6-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's very decent of you. Great work as ever, Brendan! Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (19 years ago, 4-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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After continued discussion with others about this matter (not on LUGNET), I've decided to add two more illustrations to the Canaanite Dogs story. I now realize that my original version really makes it appear as though Jesus does not heal the woman, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hi, Steve. I've moved this over to off-topic.debate since that seemed more appropriate. (...) I am presenting the story of how Jesus insulted a Canaanite woman. I grant that this can also be seen as part of a larger story about how Jesus exorcised (...) (19 years ago, 4-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Introducing Your Cycle 3 LEGO Ambassadors
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(...) snip (...) Thanks, Paul. That was exactly what I was asking for. It's certainly more information about what goes on in the LA program than we've ever had before. It should happen more often ;) I look forward to seeing the fruits of the LAs (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let me try to shed some light on the LA program without revealing things I am not supposed to. First off, I will (later today), ask some of the new ambassadors to review what we have done in the past 2 cycles. Then, I'll ask if any of the new (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought it was funny, but then it's mainly USians that need a laugh track. (...) I'll take your word for that. pete.w (19 years ago, 3-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They're mostly sheep there anyway aren't they???? ROSCO (19 years ago, 3-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well I'll have to take your word for that, since I really have no idea what the Ambassadors do. So far the exchange of information seems to be decidedly one way, if it happens at all. Apart from the occasional marketing survey, we (the general (...) (19 years ago, 3-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) For me> (URL) For Lar> (URL) For Surfer Dudes> (URL) For German kitties> You? JOHN (19 years ago, 2-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) --SNIP-- That's an interesting interpretation of my post then. All I said was that it was a pity that spanned-the-globe didn't cover its Southern half. Not once did I say I had expected it to. --SNIP-- (...) I can't wait for the day I can be (...) (19 years ago, 2-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't follow your logic there. You seemed to be thinking that the purpose of the Ambassador program was to be representative of the global, and I was trying to correct that view. Obviously the more countries that participate, the better. (...) (19 years ago, 2-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You also said "Jake has stated elsewhere that the Ambassadors will be selected from available applicants, and that the Ambassador program would not be recruiting for representation of all parts of the Globe or all countries." in response to my (...) (19 years ago, 2-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure how you got that opinion. What I said was: "My guess would be that as the Ambassador program grows, there will be a greater diversity in language support, and thus a greater variety representation." And indeed that has shown to be (...) (19 years ago, 2-Mar-06, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: At last, some family-values legislation I can really get behind!
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(...) I guess I'd agree, although as you said elsewhere, I think that sexual orientation of the parent is as much of a factor in whether they'll be good parents as, say, a parent's level of strictness. It chanages things, certainly, but I would (...) (19 years ago, 28-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Less fit"? Only in the sense that given two couples, one gay and one straight, it is better for a child to be adopted by the straight couple. I'm not advocating never letting gays adopt. I'm asserting that one relationship is superior to the (...) (19 years ago, 28-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) -snip- (...) These two paragraphs put together seem to imply that you do have some against gays adopting - that gay parents are less fit to raise children than straight parents. That's "harsh reality" tho. But then we're already dealing harsh (...) (19 years ago, 28-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: At last, some family-values legislation I can really get behind!
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(...) Ahh, it's all about media attention. I think that you are onto something, Dave! (not to be confused with Dave!!) (...) Barring homosexuals is extreme. But I do contend that there is a definite hierarchy when selecting prospective parents. 1M1F (...) (19 years ago, 28-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not informed on the issue enough to know why the Ohio legislature is taking this radical stance on gay adoption. Off hand it sounds extreme. So does amending the Constitution defining marriage, but I guess when people are pushed to the (...) (19 years ago, 28-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Does it say anything about the rights of Republican voters? :) (...) So you disagree with Hood's proposal? I guess I was assuming you were agreeing, but that is admittedly pretty presumptious of me. (...) I don't think gay marriage is the (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) All right; take it easy. There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around for everyone... (...) This has nothing to do with any specious "supporting data" argument. (...) You can't have your cake, eat it, and argue out both sides of your mouth. Take (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) **snip** (...) DaveE's (URL) comments> made me realize a few other weaknesses in this argument. First, you're apparently equating homosexuality with being a centenarian or a polygamist, at least to the extent that you think that Hagen is (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if he had picked something slightly more equivalent, like "personality type X" or "brown eyes" or "under 5 feet tall", it wouldn't quite get the same type of media attention he's looking for. But I think his point still stands-- IE that (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In that case, maybe he needs to join the GOP. (...) Not at all. He equates the utter lack of supporting data for Hood's bogus (though seriously-intended) legislation with the utter lack of supporting data for Hagen's own bogus (and (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mr. Hagen shouldn't quit his day job at the public teet for a career in comedy. He might have a promising career as a professional hypocrite, however. Hagen equates being a republican to being gay. Certainly one can change their party on a (...) (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Good luck, Mr. Hagan!> Hagan admitted that he has no scientific evidence to support the above claims. Just as `Hood had no scientific evidence'' to back his assertion that having gay parents was detrimental to children, Hagan said. Dave! (19 years ago, 27-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: "Australia will become dominated by Muslims"
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(...) And, probably, the next federal election too. Cheers Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 15-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She just needs to throw in gay marriage and she'll win my right-wing conspiracy theorist of the year competition. Tim (19 years ago, 14-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you sure about the latter? ;) Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) latest news from down-under: Australia will become a muslim dominated nation in 50 years if our current abortion rates continue. Yeah right. OK. Maybe if we're currently producing politicians like Danna Vale, a muslim nation in 50 years would (...) (19 years ago, 14-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is SO obvious-- we are engaged in an violent struggle (ie war) with radical Wahabi muslims. If the rest of Islam doesn't not stand up against these extremists, they are allowing THEM to define themselves (the rest of Islam) and their (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I mentioned the OJ Simpson trial because my school shut down access to radio, cable, TV when the verdict was read. Maybe the missing piece of info was that the school didn't know what the verdict was going to be - I think they were expecting a (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The trial of the officers who beat Rodney King (I have no idea why you are referencing the O.J. Simpson trial) was such a farce that feds brought them up on federal charges (and ran a competent trial) as fast as they could. The riot ensued (...) (19 years ago, 13-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Good point, and it highlites an omission I made. What I meant to say is that accounting to God is our only hope of remaining humble throughout life. Yes, life can get us down, but we are usually able to rise up and forget all that those (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure about that. If you get your butt seriously kicked by the world-at-large (through a spectacular failure or an overwhelming loss or a debilitating disease or whatever), then I'd say that you can get a pretty good grasp of what it (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think most cultures respect life a lot. It's just those extremists you're talking about that seem to have less respect for it. And I don't just mean terrorists. And if more people were content to put up with the inconvenience of walking (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yup. Faith without works is like a day without a bicycle. Or is that a woman without a man is like a fish without sunshine.... Something like that:-) (...) That's fine and good, but there's one caveat, and Jesus addresses this issue DIRECTLY (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) So you're a James disiple--"faith without works" and all that? I'm pretty much there except I say "In the end, I believe that we'll be judged on what we did" and leave the beliefs out of it, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Phew, I was getting the shakes in there! ;-) I'm wondering if it's as simple as simply stating, "life begins at heartbeat". Completely arbitrary, but not without a poignant touch, considering that the heart is a powerful symbol for humanity (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is almost beyond belief. But then, on the oppsite end, there's the 'morning after' pill that is causing a furor because the republicans want to make it a perscription drug (or have already done so--can't remember)--they're meddling in the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No questions? Some have decided that (URL) post birth abortions> are fine. Again, I am not comfortable with someone deciding to abort a baby that is literally seconds from birth, much less X minutes after! It's almost beyond belief. So it (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And, naturally, that may be the hardest agreement to reach! (...) A fair question. If a fetus is removed from its mother at 20 weeks and spends another 20 weeks in an artificial uterus until birth, then that's just substituting one womb for (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Remember that Tootsie Pop® commercial where the "scientist" is doing the experiment to finally find out how many licks does it take to reach the center of the Tootsie Pop sucker? "One, two, thareee, <crunch>...." "Three." As for our story and (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if you accept the premise that the baby in utero (thanks for the clarification above) is a person, then certainly the State has the obligation to protect that person's rights (namely, to live). So, by comparison, if a mother tires of her (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) See, I'm kinda with Dave! on this one--if it's a black and white issue--i.e. the second the sperm touches the egg it's LIFE! then there would be no issue. But people haven't been able to come to a consensus for, well, ever yet as to when life (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then again, maybe it (URL) was thrown out.> Personally, I thought that the whole undertaking was a waste of time. Good riddance to some pointless litigation. Dave! (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The question becomes "why must the rights of the embryo or fetus supersede the rights of the woman?" I've never heard a compelling answer to that question. (...) It has been helpful for me, in discussions like this, to add the term "viable" to (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, it definitely affects the baby, and if that baby is considered a person, then the State has the obligation to protect the rights of that person. (...) Yes. Here are 2 extreme examples that I believe negate any position that is completely (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I will never put a woman in a position where she'll have to wrestle with the decision to have an abortion. I believe the baby in the womb is a living entity--at what point doesn't really matter to the 'big conversation'--if I 'knock someone (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing funny about it, and I wasn't recommending it, I was just tracing a line from the past into the future, answering the question about how you solve this problem. (...) Yes yes, no fools these Iranians. Is there some reason you think that (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I can feeel the loove! Quick, on to abortion:-) JOHN (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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