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Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:15:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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But theres a difference between some extremists committing violence and a
crowd of 15,000 attacking an embassy because a government won’t silence
and punish a newspaper for exercising their right to satire. That is what
sets this a part from every other act of violence you listed: the totally
surreal justification for it.
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Like thousands rioting in LA because a court ruling didn’t go the way they
wanted? I seem to recall about 50 killed, was that justified? Mob rule can
do some strange things to people.
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Fair enough - that was a pretty lame reason to riot. I remember my High
School shutting off access to cable and radio when the verdict was read
during the OJ Simpson trial in case there was problems. Pretty lame and
unjustified if you ask me.
-Lenny
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The trial of the officers who beat Rodney King (I have no idea why you are
referencing the O.J. Simpson trial) was such a farce that feds brought them
up on federal charges (and ran a competent trial) as fast as they could.
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I mentioned the OJ Simpson trial because my school shut down access to radio,
cable, TV when the verdict was read. Maybe the missing piece of info was that
the school didn’t know what the verdict was going to be - I think they were
expecting a ‘guilty’ and more Rodney King-esque trouble. Of course, it was an
‘innocent’, with people cheering in the halls instead.
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The riot ensued because it was simply the straw that broke the camel’s back
due to an accumulation of events (and one that I accurately predicted would
happen following the Latasha Harlins murder trail). When a segment of
society is convinced that they can’t get justice from the justice system,
then they are much more likely to step outside that system (I am merely
making an observation, not a judgment).
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I know thats the typical interpretation - but I wonder if we so expect injustice
that we see it regardless. A police officer hitting a suspect? Clearly the
police officer needs to be punished. Or was he defending himself from a violent
suspect and used an appropriate amount of force in subduing him? I tend to
trust a jury of my peers.
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In regards to the O.J. Simpson trial, I suppose perhaps we should have rioted
over an incompetent prosecution team getting bonuses...
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Well, I got my bonus last year - so I can’t really riot over incompetent state
workers getting bonuses...
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As to the cartoons and protests - sooner or later the Islamic world is going
to have to face down their own extremists or they will be devoured by them.
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I agree completely.
-Lenny
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