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Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:36:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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if that baby (in utero) is considered a person, then the State has the
obligation to protect the rights of that person.
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The question becomes “why must the rights of the embryo or fetus supersede the
rights of the woman?” I’ve never heard a compelling answer to that question.
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Here are 2 extreme examples that I believe negate any position that is
completely pro-life or completely pro-choice.
1. If life begins at conception, then an abortion at any time would equal
murder. Now, murder is murder, whether someone kills a 5 year old child or a
50 year old grandmother. Is anyone willing to equate those lives to a
“baby” that has been growing in a womb for 2 days?
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It has been helpful for me, in discussions like this, to add the term “viable”
to “life.” “Viable life” most assuredly does not begin at conception. Before
the fetus is viable, it can’t be considered to be a functional, independent
human being.
“Viability” refers to pure, physiological criteria and shouldn’t be mistaken for
“independent.” A healthy newborn is viable but is not independent. Heck, I
know some healthy 20-somethings who are viable but not independent.
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2. A woman, who is 6 months pregnant, is on her way to the abortion clinic to
get a legal abortion. Before she gets there, she is mugged and assaulted by
a Right Wing Ant-abortion Protestor. She ends up in the hospital, her fetus
mortally wounded. The Whackjob is charged and convicted of manslaughter.
How can it be that he can get convicted of doing something that she would
have legally paid to do minutes later? Is this clearly not an “equal
protection” issue?
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It’s manslaughter because the Whackjob took the decision away from the woman,
who could otherwise have changed her mind at the last minute.
Just my thoughts. Hardly ironclad, I know.
Dave!
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