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  Re: WARNING--Not Suitable for President
 
(...) My dad and I just had lunch and Dubya came up during hte course of conversation. How this is even a question is beyond us--I mean, looking at the sheer volume of stupidness and lunacy from Dubya over the last 4 years, how can this moron still (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: WARNING--Not Suitable for Children
 
(...) Did you see the extended version (URL) here>? That's why the cable news outlets won't pick it up. :) Enjoy, Don (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
Let's cut right to here: (...) Ok, that's fine. I think its a "pretty right" tool, you think it's 100% useless and wildly inaccurate, save for entertainment purposes. That's fine. But keep in mind that *neither* of us has proof either way, being (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: WARNING--Not Suitable for President
 
Once a frat boy.... Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Your city buses have TVs? (...) Are cafeterias in general public places? Most of the ones I've been in are privately owned and operated, where the requirement that you ask permission first seems paramount. I've never yet been turned down when (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Is it ok to "force" music in public? Or overhearing people talk to each other, or on cellphones? What about the people in the airport that have a few hours to kill, and you turning off the TV will make their wait feel that much longer? Why do (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) I wouldn't use one of these in a sports bar, but then again, that's one reason I don't go to sports bars. I'm mostly concerned about public places -- city buses, cafeterias, airports, and the like. I'm prepared to take an active stance to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) Heh. Driving home after the game ended was definitely an "interesting" experience :) (...) I'd expect an option to control the TVs from a wired device... Though, this might all blow over - a similar worry was voiced when universal remotes came (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can we help?
 
(...) Good idea. However many consider it polite not to change the location of the post without any warning. Since you posted to ONLY off-topic.debate, people who subscribe to dear-lego by mail, or even by nntp, didn't see your post at all, and (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) (URL) I can't wait to get mine. I hate those dang idiot boxes. (...) Yes! If I end up getting one of these, I'll always ask an employee (and thus agent of the owner) for permission before using it... (...) Why, did something significant (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TV-B-Gone
 
(...) I saw it... and yet... Yes, I can understand hating TV. But in your own home, you have your own remote, so you don't need this. In a public place, isn't it the proprietor's privilage to choose what, if anything, is on? Can you imagine the riot (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  TV-B-Gone
 
My dad told me about this a few days ago, and Jake just blogged it. (URL) can't wait to get mine. I hate those dang idiot boxes. -Tim (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  WARNING--Not Suitable for Children
 
If (URL) this> link doesn't work, try (URL) this> one. Why do I have the feeling that, if Kerry had done this, we'd be hearing about it morning, noon, and night on at least two 24-hour cable news retailers? Dave! (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  FYI
 
Potentially the most valuable site you'll visit over the next five days: (URL) OT.Debate (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.people, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I still don't agree that "structure" and "meander" are reasonable opposites except in some interpretive, poetic sense, and in this regard they forfeit their use as scientific tools of assessment. Looking at the Myers-Briggs test, I can't (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Somewhat OT: Ever read any Robert J. Sawyer?
 
(...) I am not sure I get it!?!... (...) Right. (...) Attractive, yes. Very interesting! (...) I am French, and I *love* debates! I am afraid of a "big brother is watching you" kind of society. When you say it makes everyone "responsible for his/her (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can we help?
 
(...) because of their established slave labor practices & the 'first' world nations general willingness to look the other way for cheap stuff. (3 URLs) & just do a search for "chinese slave labor" or "laogai" I'm changing the forum to (...) (20 years ago, 28-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Ah, now there's where I'm concerned-- you added an extra qualifier to "decisive". Useful vs. Non-Useful (Dubya-esque). Each is still decisive, no? What's the 'decisive' element, minus the 'usefulness' qualification? (...) Hm. I guess that's (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Open Mouth, Insert Dubya
 
That title was supposed to be "open mouth, insert Bush" but I could see the risque sidepath that would be dragged down... ;-) (URL) "A political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your commander (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Yikes! If you're suggesting that, based on my definition, I am allied with the corporate world, you have either misread my intent or I have miscommunicated it. Or perhaps I'm again misreading you. (...) Now I think perhaps you _are_ (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Ha! If anything I would be implying the opposite! :) I'm trying my best not to place a judgement on being "decisive", though :) (...) Heh, yeah, that's how the corporate & political worlds love to define it. All the good, none of the bad. (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality tests
 
(...) To that, I have no objection. Increased empathy and understanding are always positive IMO, and if this test helps someone achieve these, then great! But in the professional world the test is actually used to evaluate people's management (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Hmm. Upon reflection, I see that I was inferring a value judgment where perhaps you didn't really imply one. It sounded, to me, as if you were making "decisiveness" a positive attribute, so that "more decisive" was more positive than "less (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Somewhat OT: Ever read any Robert J. Sawyer?
 
(...) cameras (...) be (...) I think that cameras in law enforcement vehicles are an excellent idea all-around. If someone's committed a crime and they know that their actions are being recorded, I like to believe that this would have the effect of (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality tests
 
(...) Interesting. In my own experience, necessarily limited just so, I have found this quite helpful. Granted its possible for someone reasonably bright to answer the questions so as to deliver whichever type they desire, but for bonafide (...) (20 years ago, 27-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) How would you define decisiveness, then? The speed at which you make a decision? I guess I'd say that if you either admit you could be wrong, or actually do change your mind frequently enough, you're less decisive. But that's just the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I'll put it this way-- I'd wish a "truly fair" God existed-- one that believed in relative morality, etc. Because, hey, it IS somewhat comforting to know that "everything's gonna be ok" or whatever. Would I want a Christian God to exist? (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) Oops, you're right. They aren't scheduled to (URL) switch to tabloid format> until 2006. I stand corrected. Sorry, it seemed funny at the time. Heh, love that (URL) wikipedia>. Who knew George Soros was involved with the Guardian? Anyhow, do (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) This behavior has been described as "confirmation bias," though I don't know if that's a formal designation or just what (URL) calls it. Either way, it speaks of the tendency to exclude data that doesn't fit one's preconceptions, and it's an (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) junk to back your case. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) Even shades of grey is a severely limitied viewpoint. It's a full-colour, 3D, fully interactive world baby. Al (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I would say that it's definitely a sliding scale, because we're all guilty of that to some extent. I certainly note such tendencies in myself--I just try to keep them in check. (...) That's an interesting separate question: do atheists, by and (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Personality test vs. Religion
 
(...) I've noticed that too. I've also noticed similar things with people who are just "decisive". They'll form an opinion early on, then focus on facts that support the opinion, rather than base the opinion on facts. Of course it's more like a (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
Hi, Matthew. (...) Just to be clear, I did not mean to imply that you were necessarily providing *your* justification for the Canaanite genocide, just *a* justification, which is, I think what Stephane was asking for when he asked "How does your (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) I wouldn't read too much into this sort of political endorsement. The same sort of thing happened four years ago, when Saddam was very much in support of Gore (because Bush's dad whupped him) while Pol Pot supported Bush because he'd been (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
(...) And that is a very valid belief. Certainly many genocides have attempted to be justified by "what God wants" since the time of Joshua, including genocides in the name of Jesus by people who claim to be Christians. I can't think of any (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) confusing than funny. What is this Weekly (Daily?) Standard? Is it some sort of satire mag? It doesn't seem to get quoted much here. Don (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Oops. my use of "license" was imprecise. It definitely *should* be a matter of contract recognition rather than a granting of permission. Dave! (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Licenses? Or just recognition of contracts? The state ought not to be granting licenses of this sort, merely recognizing contracts. (or in the case of non consenting or non adult, NOT recognizing) This is an example of the more general (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
(...) Not that I am aware of, as fixing spacing or linewrapping is a kind of editing and LUGNET does not support editing. You can repost it and request a cancel of the original post if you like, but no one can change it, not even you, as far as I (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) Inclined though you may be to dismiss the Guardian, perhaps you should factor the ramblings of the ultraliberal Weekly Standard into your "funny" calculations: (URL) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
(...) Yeah, the contents of supermarket tabloids are usually pretty funny, but maybe they should include a few more alien abduction stories in the Guardian so people don't forget what they're reading. I mean some people took them seriously the other (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Carter - Bush exploits suffering of 9/11
 
==+== So why does he think the US electorate punished him so badly over Iran - a crisis that wasn't his choice, and in which relatively few Americans died - while the polls are so split about Bush's arguably far worse, and certainly more deadly, (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) IMO, we should tell religion to shut the heck up re: matters of legislation, and we should recognize homosexual marriage on the same footing as heterosexual marriage. If religious groups want to endorse only a certain kind of marital union, (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) What about this: Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Crucial Endorsement for Bush
 
Saying it like it is... Hasan Rowhani (Head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council) We haven't seen anything good from the Democrats... We do not desire to see Democrats take over ... We should not forget that most sanctions and economic (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) are pretty depressed about this. It's just a bad idea to legislate this way. (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
Hi, Mark. (...) I also appreciate Matthew's attempts to provide a justification for the genocide depicted in my recent illustrated stories--even if I myself am of the belief that genocide can never be "justified". But I'm not sure how to take your (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
(...) I really appreciate your reply, Matthew. Great insight and answers to these questions that are raised due to the Brick Testament’s missing context and background of the events. Mark (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Exactly right. As a Christain I can no longer place any respect on a government defined or endorsed marriage. And looking back I see that I never should have. A true marriage is a union before God, and it doesn't matter at all what the state (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
(...) Dan did a very good job at answering that first question - killing versus murder. There is indeed a very real difference between the two, Biblically speaking. I am not Jewish, but as a Christian with a decent amount of Biblical knowledge I (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
(...) Not that I'm really qualified to answer, but I am jewish... (...) I'll avoid the issue - the bible actually says "do not murder", not "do not kill". War isn't murder, therefor there's no problem. (...) Basically, for the israelites to get to (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) That is such a simple and elegant solution to the whole debate. I was really hoping Kerry (or somebody!) would voice this opinion--it's such a simple, easy-to-make-sense-of position, compared to his (and others') "I am against letting gay (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: Joshua and the Israelites Massacre Twenty-Nine Kingdoms
 
(...) If there is any jewish person in the audience, I'd like to ask this: How does your religion explain or justify all the slaughter? "Thou shalt not kill", yeah, right. O_o Is there a specific reason why Yawheh wanted all those people dead? Had (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) I agree. Government has absolutly no business defining "marriage" be it hetero, homo, or anything else. -Orion (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Szklennik wrote: woah! why didn't the text 'wrap' like in the editing box? can someone fix my post (b4 this one)? Sorry! Jeff (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
(...) I apologize, Ka-On Lee, for not making my point clearer. I had no intention of speaking negatively of children. I was lamenting the tendency of large corporations to abuse what they see as less developed economies by using the most vulnerable (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  More Election Bad News?
 
Looks like Proposal 2, a state amendment banning all forms of homosexual unions will be passed in Michigan: (URL) don't get it. Can't we have the word 'marriage' stricken from all our laws and legalese and replaced with the term "civil union", open (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
(...) No, but they've learned a lot over recent years. They've set up huge manufucturing districts, and the way it usually works is young adults will work there for a few years, earn enough money in that time to go buy a small farm, start up a (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) And if we direct the government to fund said research (oh, say, a JPL probe to Neptune) then isn't that the government working for us? (...) Inasmuch as the same forces that want to have Biblical deluges offered up as "science" want to get (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Excuse me for lamely replying to my own post, but... I had another thought and that was that the Creationists of course take the belief of God as a fundamental truth of the universe much in the same way you accept the nose on your face. So, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I5uC0L.1JF1@lugnet.com... (...) after (...) Greg Egan - born 1961. One of the best IMHO! (URL) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Ha ha ha, well, I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the thought occurred to me that this almost seems to go into a realm related to Moral Relativism. Instead of seeing morals as relative, we are seeing the scientific evidence in (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Yah, you see there. You are asking the questions that the government does not want answered. I learned a little bit of government thinking in that job, and they don't address issues like that. Yes, now that this has been publicized it is (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
(...) Just to think about how we're (USA) going to support the baby boom generation in retirement and that there are four times as many humans in China with little in the way of future generations to support those. Of course their family structure (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ?Quality Standards?
 
Snipped a lot of the post because I see much of it has been covered by others already. (...) ONE good thing about the EU is that this sort of anti-competitive chicanery is against EU rules. And sometimes the EU even actually does something about it. (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO...
 
(...) Riii...iiight, and the majority of China's factory labor force is upper-middle class, university educated!?! Bad factory environments exist in much of the Global South, and China in no exception! Some generalizations are valid, simply because (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Of course not. And you are correct that such projects are generally judged on merit. Personally I like the ones involving Near Death Experiences - although it should be noted in this case that this doesn't necessarily imply it's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Well since any crackpot out there can make up his/her own theories, the first step to gaining scientific credibility is to present the theory for peer review - typically by submitting an article to "the literature" journals. This allows for (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) No we won't! How dare you accuse us of that! :) (...) You may certainly buy a new one. However, if you're looking to return your Lucky Jackalope Foot, you'll have to demonstrate that it had, and then lost its powers. Or you might just need to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Well, that's not the point-- the point isn't that to date, religious science has been a joke, it's that "what if it weren't"? Should the fact that it just happens to be religious preclude a research project from going forward, even if it's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Honestly, that's a great question! Creationists have never actually submitted anything for peer review, so if the book were indeed written using scientific methods of inquiry, then it would be greatly beneficial to them to put it up for (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Why's that a good question? I thought the govt. was supposed to be workin for us, not just to perpetuate itself. (...) Wow, you guys'll argue over just about anything. On a relative scale this seems about as vital as wrangling over whether you (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Because religious research shouldn't be confused with scientific research and it shouldn't pretend to be. One is legitimate science that can produce beneficial results (in medicine, engineering, technology etc) - which represents a gain to our (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Although I doubt it's the case, what if the book were written using scientific methods? Let's suppose for a minute there were some evidence (albeit alternately explainable evidence via "regular" science) that supported the claim. The article I (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Because geologic theory is based in testable science rather than non-testable religion, and the Fed's choice to endorse an article of religious faith is manifestly unconstitutional. Even the claim made elsewhere that Dubya himself didn't (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's back with another awesome article...
 
(...) Hmm, I'd argue that one does get something from almost any charitable contribution (beyond satisfaction, which of course has value itself). For example, if I give to a homeless shelter, then someone gets to spend a night inside instead of on (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) The problem as I understand it is that this is a widely regarded as a work of fiction (or nonsense?) by our own NPS geologists and educators, yet it is being sold in a manner which makes it appear that the NPS regards it as a legitimate (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Hm. But the government DOES have business endorsing a book that would support the theory that the GC was created by erosion? Why should the government support NASA research (say), as opposed to religious research, apart from the actual (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Hi Avery: Thanks for the input re: sonar in the other thread. Regarding this book--is it presented as a work of science or a work of fiction? If the latter, then I don't really have a problem with it, as long as the Federal Parks Service would (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Okay, two things about this: One, the article makes this sound as if it was from Bush's own hand that this was allowed. Probably some bias there. But, this was from the administration. So, it could have been anyone under Bush acting to support (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Two things -- One, it said Bush administration, not Dubbya himself. And two, it is quite common to have various novels of fiction and non-fiction pertaining to national monuments in the book stores at the visiting centers. They are probably (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's back with another awesome article...
 
(...) I appreciate her style as well. (...) I don't know how much I donate to charities, but I also know it's more than 0 percent. I don't know if contributing to the local Jazz radio station to keep it on the air is "philanthropistic" of me or (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's back with another awesome article...
 
(...) Good question, how to treat profanity when embedded in a site URL or email address. I'll bounce it around with the rest of the gang and see what they think. Meanwhile, as ways to find the site, there's Makeashorterlink.com if you wanted to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  She's back with another awesome article...
 
Not wanting to make a link to the site due to the use of profanity, but one of my favourite very-infrequently updated blogs has just been updated. TMB mentions 'flat tax', 'libertarianism', and such like in a wonderful little article. Of course, as (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) I'd have to assume they wouldn't, but I dunno. I guess some do: (URL) funny-- they do give some actual evidence suggesting that certain areas were created 'in a catastrophe', and that there's inaccuracies in carbon dating, but not once is (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: You have got to be kidding me...
 
(...) Just further proof that Dubya is a blithering moron. The sad thing is that it says something about the number of blithering morons in this country that he could almost get elected in the first place. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  You have got to be kidding me...
 
(URL) Canyon made by Noah's flood? I don't even know where to begin... Do even Creationists believe that? Yet supposedly, as stated in the article, Dubya supports that. This is the guy running the most powerful nation in the world--"Grand Canyon (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Well, in his defense, he was liberally lubricated with a certain illegal Romulan paint-stripper. That stuff can't be good for your brain cells, especially not after you've had some vile space-bug in there chewing on the wiring. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Like those posters in the t-shirt shop--"everything I needed to know about life I learned from Star Trek..." Here's something I gleaned from IMDB.com the other day-- the "Guess who's coming to dinner" line was suppose to be spoken by Uhura. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) D'oh! Wasn't paying attention--was thinking TUC, but somehow TVH was stuck in my mind... Why was that? There be whales here??? Maybe it was more of the computer asking Spock, "How do you feel?" :) Dave K (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Correct! The line came from the daughter of the Klingon Chancellor in resonse to Chekov's ham-handed attempt at diplomacy. Dave! (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) That's actually from ST6: The Undiscovered Country, which I just recently caught on TV. I can't remember which scene specifically it's from, but I think it was the dinner shared by the Enterprise crew and the Klingons. (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Eh, I thought I'd add a particular flavour to my otherwise colourless rant. If you want me to do you a favour by dropping the u's out of color, I'll do so. (...) We can set up scientific experiments, observe, and hypothesize, and come up with (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  From the "too much information" department
 
Bit of a puff piece, really: (URL) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Guardian Sends out Mixed Messages?
 
Which is it: (URL) or (URL) ??? (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) Judging by the mob which followed him on his last visit and the way he is almost universally derided here: not very many. (...) That's actually an argument against all political campagning. When I posted the message I was actually more (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) I tried reading one of the Alvin Maker series a while back, and I just could not get into it at all. Aside from that, the only OSC books I've ever touched were in the Ender series. I wouldn't want to say that he's a good sci-fi author in (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water?
 
(...) Whoops, forgot to complete that thought. ...but it didn't really strike me as a great example of his work. The ending kinda rolls out in a largely predictable manner. I'd say the most compelling reason to read it is the unusual array of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ??
 
(...) My son is reading Ender's Game as I type this (page 200). I started after him and zoomed by him to page 273 (just put it down so he could go read it - he has to have it read for school by Sunday). I'd agree with your analysis. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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