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Re: More Election Bad News?
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Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:29:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, J. Spencer Rezkalla wrote:
Looks like Proposal 2, a state amendment banning all forms of homosexual unions
will be passed in Michigan:

http://www.detnews.com/2004/politics/0410/22/a01-312436.htm

I don't get it. Can't we have the word 'marriage' stricken from all our laws and
legalese and replaced with the term "civil union", open to all hetro and gay
couples? Churches can then be free to define their own "marriages" as religious
(yet non-legal) contracts sanctioned by God?

Doesn't that then afford equal rights under the law and yet preserve the
so-called traditional "definition of marriage"?

IMO, we should tell religion to shut the heck up re: matters of legislation, and
we should recognize homosexual marriage on the same footing as heterosexual
marriage.  If religious groups want to endorse only a certain kind of marital
union, then that's their business.  It seems unlikely to me that religion, with
its bottomless lust for political power, would ever cede its power to solemnize
the legal contract of marriage.

In any case, your suggestion isn't bad, but the concept of "marriage" is so
ingrained that you'd have a tough time replacing it with the concept of "civil
union."

On a practical note, right now I can describe myself as "married."  What would
be the gerund of choice if my wife and I had entered into a civil union instead
of a marriage?  Will we be "united?"  Or maybe "civved?"  8^)

Dave!



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  Re: More Election Bad News?
 
(...) Given the sheer numbers represented by organized religion in this country, and how strongly many members feel about certain issues, you can shout it until you're blue in the face, but the only way it'll have any affect is to pass an ammendment (...) (20 years ago, 3-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  More Election Bad News?
 
Looks like Proposal 2, a state amendment banning all forms of homosexual unions will be passed in Michigan: (URL) don't get it. Can't we have the word 'marriage' stricken from all our laws and legalese and replaced with the term "civil union", open (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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