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Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal
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Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:52:35 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Matthew Sailors writes:
I think that the list of connectors/connections needs to be expanded from what
is shown here.  My specific concern after reading the draft is that it does not
seem to cover the possibility of placing a mini-fig headgear piece on a 1x1
round brick.  A concrete example of where this might be used is in the
modelling of a store with a display of hats or "wigs".  It also does not
address the placing of pieces in "uncommon" ways, such as hanging a mini-fig
helmet on a 1x2 plate with arm (LDraw part 4623).  The "uncommon" ways could >be
handled just as they are now, but being able to put a 1x1 round brick into a
minifig headgear is something that should be automatic.

Other that that oversight, the proposal has a lot of merit.

I think your comment is correct, the connectability needs to encompass a
minifig hat on a standard stud... where there may be weakness in their
terminology is that they handle fields of studs as one... and while a
minifig hat will NOT fit onto a 2x2 brick, it WILL fit onto a 1x1 or at
least onto a 1x1 round.

However I don't see the authors as having stated that they were definitively
correct in the examples they gave, they were trying to lay groundwork for an
approach. To the extent that working specific examples helps highlight
places where the connectability language isn't expressive, that's great, but
I would not (and I think you *are* not, but I think it needs explication for
others) fault them for inconsistencies or omissions in their examples.

Another example of potential insufficient connectability language richness
has to do with depth of the female end. For example, the minifig hips. These
have special studs which are more than the normal height. If we do not
distinguish between plate and brick "depth" in the connector type we do not
have a way to tell that these hips WILL plug all the way into a brick but
will only PARTLY plug into a plate (similarly for the double height studs on
"monorail" stanchion bases)



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  Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote: . . . (...) Hi, I first have to admit that I haven't read the whole proposal. However from what I have read, and the comments, I'm starting to think that what is being proposed is more of a standalone database that is popu (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
  Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal
 
(...) Correct. I was not faulting the authors. I only intended to point out that the community needs to work with them to flesh out the model. I hate to throw in jargon and buzzwords into a discussion, but we will need to either build or adopt an (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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  Re: LCD - LEGO Connection Database - Proposal
 
I think that the list of connectors/connections needs to be expanded from what is shown here. My specific concern after reading the draft is that it does not seem to cover the possibility of placing a mini-fig headgear piece on a 1x1 round brick. A (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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