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  ldraw.org going off-line for a few hours
 
In a moment I will take ldraw.org off-line to install a new harddisk. I expect to have the machine up and running again before 17:00 UTC. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- ---...--- (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce)
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) No, I'm afraid this won't work. The 76.dat is NOT somewhere else, it is still in PARTS. You only move the referencing line type 1 to another file. (I take it you are referring to Steve's 112.dat) The clue is to prevent (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) In L3Lab, you can find the current view matrix in the statistics menu item. It is useful for usage with, e.g., LDLITE and LDraw. Fredrik (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) MPD. (...) MLCad (...) either (...) Great sleuthing. I'd say that is it. The suggestion given earlier to create an ersatz part that embeds the scaled 76 in it, ensuring that the 76 is somewhere else, sounds like it might fool your scaler into (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  BMP-to-LDraw32 Converter new release 0.95 !!!
 
Hello ! I've just updated my BMP-to-LDraw converter windows tool. I added 3 more palettes (2 with dithered colors) and the possibility to choose your palette. BMP-to-LDraw runs under Win95/98/ME/2000 and convertes logo-bitmaps of LEGO-bricks to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.ideas, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
I knew there was a way to decompose the matrices! But I couldn't find it. Where is that written down? I also thought there was a way to remove the cumulative round off errors in a transformation matrix after many matrix multiplications. Do you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) LDAO writes those entries to ldraw.ini. I'm not sure if any other programs update that section or not. The "Oblique" view is the default view for LDraw, and was also used for LDLite (I think) and L3Lab. "UpsideDown" is derived from "Oblique". (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
OK now we're getting somewhere. Thanks for providing the exact mathematical representations of those numbers. Now I'm gonna have to figure out how you calculated them. :-) (I just had the computer do the work and print out the decimal (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
I believe the matrix happens to produce a standard isometric view, but doesn't do so in the traditional 3D graphics way of rotation. This means that in addition to not looking right after rotation, it also doens't produce correct results when you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) It's not always this easy. Some parts just cannot be constructed out of the primitives - or the scaling/transformation is just too difficult to figure out. Examples are those with complex curves (like the wizard's hat), or complex (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
(...) I don't know their origin, but you're right, there's a shear component in them. Here's what a matrix decomposition shows: (...) Scale : (1.5, 0.942809, 1.41421, 0) Rotate : (0.321751, 0.729728, 0.463648, 0) Translate : (0, 0, 0, 0) Shear : (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) You are correct on both points. The primary value of the tool at this point is that it removes the tedium of defining polygons to connect vertices. It's a start! (...) Your edge-detection suggestion is certainly the ideal, but would get a bit (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) Move L3P.exe to a different directory, for instance C:\Pov, and change the path reference in the last line of L3P.bat accordingly. This way you can still use way the DOS-window openened with the shortcut for L3P for running Ldraw.exe also. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Cool beans! (...) Define "feed" in this context... an ordered vertex list? That's still hard to do, what is needed is an app that lets me create these regions superimposed on a bitmap. (...) Er, ah, kind of like that. (...) I think this is an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another license draft
 
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to this -- I've been too busy to really dig into it. Overall, I think this is a decent *redistribution* license. It does not address: 1. The agreement(s) between the contributors and ldraw.org. 2. The fact (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More descriptions
 
(...) Thanks for pointing this out. I can't check into this right now -- I'm wondering if there's some obscure reason behind this (besides me not being careful) -- but I will delve into the matter ASAP. Steve (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Unusual View matrices in LDRAW.INI
 
Hey, does anybody out there know the origin of the "Oblique", "UpsideDown", and "Natural" viewing matrices in LDRAW.INI. I'm not sure whether these came from LDAO, LDLITE, or perhaps even LDRAW? Wherever they came from, they don't seem to be pure (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) The problem is the first one you listed: L3P.bat and L3P.exe are in the same directory. C:\Ldraw\L3P.bat C:\Ldraw\L3P.exe How should I separate them so L3P.bat will be found first? --Ryan Lugnet member #517 E-mail: Ryanjf2@juno.com Amateur (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Yes indeedy, and coincidentally I slung together the beginnings of such a program tonight. You feed it the outlines of the features of the printed element, along with a "color seed" inside each colored region, and it generates the triangles (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  More descriptions
 
I have one more note about the descriptions: 2494P01 and 4448P01 are called "Glass for Window ..." while 2494 and 4448 are called "Window Glass ...", so they don't sort correctly. Leonardo (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) both (...) We were composing at the same time I think, and independently posted. Either that or its some sort of Ada resonance. (...) Continue to enforce the naming convention for decorated parts that makes it easy to derive what the base part (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet ... (...) (URL) Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
Larry Pieniazek skrev i meddelandet ... (...) present (...) are (...) I have the beginnings of such a program, it puts the bitmap as background, and you can draw polygons (triangles and quads) on top of that. You can zoom in/out quite a bit, and it (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) Try looking for lines with the following: 0 [Official|Unofficial] ... [Part|Element|Primit...art|Model] I admit, the "Official/Unofficial" flag is kludgy, but I was working with what I had... Another MPD suggestion: 0 FILEEND. This would allow (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) I've (re)tested it just now, and it should work: Possible error causes: - L3P.BAT and L3P.EXE are in the same folder/directory. When you issue the command "L3P" it finds the EXE before the BAT, and LDRAWDIR isn't set. - Saved batchfile with (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  6216M description note
 
Hi, I'm looking at the new update and I noticed that 6216M is called "Eletric Technic Motor 4.5V", but I have one of those as a 12V motor. Leonardo (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More tips for L3P
 
(...) Well, Manfred, I followed your instructions but it didn't seem to work. However, by typing the path to my \ldraw\models directory and seting Ldrawdir=C:\ldraw, I was able to run L3P and render my models in POV-Ray. Thanks for your help, --Ryan (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Parts 4744 & 6216 have the same name
 
Here's a heads-up: The newly released part 6216 and an older part 4744 have the same name but are different pieces. 4744.DAT Brick 2 x 4 x 2 with Curved Top 6216.DAT Brick 2 x 4 x 2 with Curved Top (needs work) Part 4744 has four studs and part 6216 (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) My "fake" seams seem to be the problem ;-) As you can see on (URL) scale parts a little bit to make a seam between parts. ("parts" are here DAT files found in the PARTS directory [1]) Normally this works fine, because (...) (24 years ago, 3-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: BrickDraw3D works with RayShade
 
That's interesting. Does that mean you used the raytracing code? So there would be some similarities to my program's rayshade mode? (I'm just a newcomer yet and not familiar with everything available.) My program's rayshade mode improved to (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Tyres?
 
(...) is (...) I thought that might be the case, but I couldn't find a quick answer online. Thanks! Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Tyres?
 
(...) James Jessiman was from Australia. Leonardo (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Tyres?
 
This might be an exceedingly dumb question, but why does LCad spell it this way? It doesn't bother me, of course, but I wondered when the decision was made to go with the "chiefly British" spelling, considering that elsewhere "color" is spelled (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test version of LDraw Add-On Installation
 
(...) That's normal, if you mean the progress bar that appears on the main form when you start LDAO, not the messages you get when you open the VEC, about parts.lst and the VEC being out-of-date. (...) Hmm. I'll look into this some more. It's (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) Whoa. Deja vu. (...) [snip] (...) I'm not seeing how this affects file-naming standards, except from the POV of not changing what we're doing. Also, do you (or anyone) have any suggestions for modifying the Partsref site to follow this (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  BMP-to-LDraw32 Converter
 
Hello ! the last two days I was busy to program this BMP-to-LDraw converter windows tool. It runs under Win95/98/ME/2000 and it convertes logo-bitmaps of LEGO-bricks to LDAT-format - just as BMP2DAT or the tool in the LDAO suite should do ;).. Fell (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.ideas, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New program for Macs: BrickDraw3D
 
LOL. The more things change... Long time followers of LCAD will note that Rayshade is the renderer on which I based the L3G0 library. -gyug (...) [...] (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ATTENTION: all current MOTM participants
 
Terry & all - Good thoughts. There should possibly be a limit for how many times a model can be entered period as well. And hopefully soon (after a few other things are taken care of) we can have a fully automated MOTM voting system. Jacob and I had (...) (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: October MOTM voting - - We have a winner!
 
(...) Dang! I knew I forgot something: (URL) Terry K -- (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ATTENTION: all current MOTM participants
 
Hi, To all of the people who have entries in the LDraw MOTM competition. We have some entries that have "rolled over" for several months now. The page is getting kind of full, and I need to know if you still want your scene to continue to be in the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  October MOTM voting - - We have a winner!
 
Greetings, The winner of this months MOTM is the one and only(1) Jeremy Sproat. His 'Baby Roc' model took a commanding lead early on and just kept going. Congrats to Sproat. :-) -- Terry K -- 1. probably a good thing. (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: Has the minfig gem been done?
 
(...) OK, I'm done. ;-) (See "(URL) (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Has the minfig gem been done?
 
(...) Hmmm.... Gimme a few hours. (Okay, put the "secret project" on hold, this one should be a bit easier... ;-) Seriously, what should we call this one? It's not necessarily a "Minifig Accesory". Franklin (24 years ago, 1-Oct-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test version of LDraw Add-On Installation
 
(...) Do you mean that each time you get a new file, ~LDAO001.bat, ~LDAO002.bat, ~LDAO003.bat and so on ? If so, then the same thing happens for me too. Greetings, M. Moolhuysen. (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Test version of LDraw Add-On Installation
 
(...) I decided to go ahead and download the test version too. It didn't destroy Windows 98 (SE, I think) this time. However, the VEC batch processes still run every time I start LDAO instead of just once, and the Minifig modeler (which was actually (...) (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Has the minfig gem been done?
 
I'm speaking of the little 1x1 gem found in many ninja sets, ocatgonal with a tiny cylinder at the base... i can't find it on any parts pages or updates and can't locate it in the partlist. J (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LCad Parts Update 2000-02 Now Available
 
[FUT lugnet.cad] The LCad parts update 2000-02 is now available from ldraw.org. And it's a biggie. The update file alone is over 700K. There are more than 130 new parts in this one. Get it at (URL). Full details are available there. Steve Bliss (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev) !! 
 
  Re: tubing  [DAT]
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Larry Pieniazek writes: Ok, for anyone that wants to give this a whirl... I've attached a sample MPD. It has tubing the length I expect... 14 plates high. It renders fine in MLCad and in L3Lab (using the versions I posted (...) (24 years ago, 30-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  More tips for L3P (was: Re: LDraw.exe)
 
(...) Try this: assume you have L3P.exe in the C:\Pov directory, the Ldraw programs in the C:\Ldraw directory, and the shortcut for L3P I've described previously. With Notepad you make a new file with the following content: @ECHO OFF SET (...) (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part skins (was Re: some thoughts on ldraw parts)
 
(...) <snip> I feel this suggestion as worded combines two different, separable ideas, both of which merit discussion. One would be the introduction of subcategories for decorated versions of parts within the authoring tools. The other is a new, (...) (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.exe
 
All right! I figured out how to use LDraw! As I was working on how to get L3P working as per Manfred Moolhuysen's instructions (Re: I can't run L3P), I realized that both L3P and LDraw are DOS programs. So I followed his directions for L3P and (...) (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New program for Macs: BrickDraw3D
 
(...) Although I'm not a Mac user, it's nice to see Ldraw alive and cicking in the "Enemy" camp ;-) I wish you a lot of response of- and coöperation with other Mac users. Keep up the good work. Greetings, M. Moolhuysen. (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) Thanks. I'll try to work up a simple one that exhibits the same problem, that particular DAT isn't for public consumption. (...) c ">/"++" c "s"" to yield ( :-) ) ++Lar (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  New program for Macs: BrickDraw3D
 
Mac users wishing for LDRAW, your day is nearing! I've started to post daily builds of my program, BrickDraw3D. See (URL) short, the goals for this program are everything you've been dreaming of but couldn't get on a Mac. Well, at least as far as (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: tubing
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote... (...) I don't know of any problems (knock knock). If you would care to e-mail me your DAT (MPD) file, I will check it with L3Lab, L3P and POVRay. /Lars (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: tubing  [DAT]
 
(...) I think the "can't move in the long direction" problem would be solved if you put the modified command line in a separate dat file, then used that new file like a part. For example (and only slightly in a different direction, style-wise), you (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:f5n6tsct07b32dm...4ax.com... (...) Very handy.... I dunno if it works on Win2k or not though, I thought I tried installing it but could be wrong. If I did, it didn't run - but my memory is (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: LDraw.exe
 
"Ryan J Farrington" <ryanjf2@juno.com> wrote in message news:20000928.094151...uno.com... (...) Check out Bram's tutorial at (URL) - that explains what ldraw.exe is all about. Basically though, LDLite, L3Lab, etc... do it better ;-) -- Tim Courtney (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) LDList is Anders Isaakson's program to search the LDraw parts. It's very handy and lightweight. I don't have a link handy, but if you search (URL), you should dig one up. Steve (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: I can't run L3P
 
(...) You must have a MS-DOS Command Prompt window open before you can issue the L3P command. Here is what I have done as a setup for L3P: Search for cmd.exe (probably in your Windows\System32 directory, it is the program that opens the Command (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw.exe
 
Okay, I'v been a user of "LDraw" for several months now, and yet I haven't figured out how to run LDraw.exe. All I get is the DOS window saying, "your pop-up program is ready to run. When you have finished using it, press ctrl+c to close this window (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I can't run L3P
 
Hi, Lars, I recently downloaded L3P and went through the instructions, setting the paths for L3P and LDraw. But when I type in the command C:\> l3p car.dat it says, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Do you know what I can do to get it (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Well, it looks like you caught me on that one. I have not read the read-me file... :-) I will get to it right away. I didn't even think about using the right mouse button. Ooops! Thank you for reminding me to read it. Paul (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) You're right, but we don't have to add keywords to *every* file. Just the ones that are hard to find. The hinge-rod-with-end-stud is definitely one of the part files that needs keywords added. Steve (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Heh. I had a lot of trouble finding this one too. "Lever Control" is not exactly an intuitive name for it. What's LDList? Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Park: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: Another license draft
 
I have some issues, mostly minor, one major. (...) Which is who? This needs to be addressed somewhere. (...) Minor issue: strike ".", add "and the various programs and systems of datamodels that allow Computer Aided Design (creation) of (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) I don't know if this will help or not, but the Ldlite polling code is also available. The link to the Ldlite 2.0 source is broken, but you can still get the original Ldlite 1.6 source from the bottom of the ldglite page at the sourceforge (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Another license draft
 
Hi, After some more dicussion, I have come to the following proposal for the license. It's much simpler than Steve's first license but I think it covers all important points. I have also copied some parts of the GPL text because I think they are (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) nor a control, IMNSHO. My point stands, we need better characterisation, better ways to find parts, less reliance on memorization of quirky names and , for goodness sake, less need for memorization of part numbers! ++Lar (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) OK, I have done a similar thing in my PCC which uses yellow tubing for handrails. the tubing needs to be 14 plates high so I changed the length -20 to -14*8 by hand in the mpd to get the length right, then moved/rotated the tubing around in (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Is it: 2433 Lever Control ? A good set of keywords and more exposure of LDList (which is very useful for finding parts) would probably benefit the parts library, but it'd be such a pain to add all those keywords... Hope that helps, --Bram Bram (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
That would be the lever controll, larry (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Larry, its 2433 and under Lever? Kind of wacky I think. Here is a link to confirm for you. (URL) that helps, Eric Kingsley The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Does this part exist?
 
As an example of how I can't find parts in our current system, I am asking about this part. It probably exists and I missed it. - It is a member of the 2-3 finger hinge system. - it has a 3 finger hinge at one end - this joins a rod system sized rod (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Paul Easter" <pneaster@knoxy.net> wrote in message news:G1J5It.Fvr@lugnet.com... [S*N*I*P] (...) not (...) The right mouse button should still work. Click the right button and move up or down to zoom in or out. (I actually didn't add scroll wheel (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Sounds good. I may be jumping the gun just a bit on this one. So far I do not have any "real" parts that use these primitives yet. So there is no rush on it. Although, I could see them being used if available. I have started to use the Hi-res (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
Well, LDView doesn't use MFC; will it be useful to a non-MFC app? If it might be, go ahead and send it to me in e-mail. (Yes, I know, writing a Windows app without using MFC will probably seem unusual--and possibly even insane to some--but quite (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts (HELP NEEDED !!)
 
(...) Hmm. Try viewing your main file in L3Lab -- that will tell you whether or not it can find the subpart files. Steve (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) My thoughts: ARJ to ZIP? Simple Conversion ASCII to EBCDIC? Simple Conversion text to binary? Essential change reorganizing the directory structure? Major change posting all the files individually on a webserver? Major change (...) Hmmm. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts (HELP NEEDED !!)  [DAT]
 
(...) Hi, I'm trying to re-order my 2865.dat file with subparts, but it's not working. I'll placed the s\14S01.dat in the main file for test purpose. i do have following into the main file (Parts directory): 0 9V straight train track 0 Name: (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts
 
(...) is (...) parts. (...) O.K. Steve, I'll break it in sub parts for reuse in other track parts as curved track, points and cross. When reddy, i'll repost it. regards and thanks for the answer. Ludo (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: October MOTM Voting is ready
 
Hi Terry, Tougher to pick this month. Though I own an FX star patroller, I like renderings with backgrounds so, I voted for the "Baby Roc over Mars" but was wondering why much of the wings are upside down. Mark (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Hey, I believe that's my cue to resume my nagging about the L3Lab source code ;-) Why not just release it all? Just a thought... I'll be quiet now. Don (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Travis Cobbs" wrote... (...) If you are interested, I can e-mail you the L3Lab polling code. It is built on top of MFC Doc/View, but I'm sure you can bend it. /Lars (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: October MOTM Voting is ready
 
(...) Ack... *must decide* *can't vote on multiple models* *must decide* ;-) (...) One question: could you, in addition to the archive with the past winners, offer an archive of the second-, third- and all other entries? Some of those pictures are (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Paul Easter" <pneaster@knoxy.net> wrote in message news:G1HCxz.I8G@lugnet.com... (...) would (...) todo (...) I'm pretty sure you're asking for an option to use the files in th 48 subdirectory; is this correct? I'm definitely going to add the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Hello, It works great for me so far... Is there any chance of getting a high-res (48pt) 1-4cyls and 1-4cyls2 substitutions in there? I am working on the primitive files, also working on a torus generation spread sheet. See my todo (inprocess) (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G1H3qH.Kst@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) added (...) viewer (...) Thanks for the comments. This should already work. I added command line filename support in version 0.7. I haven't created an (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: October MOTM Voting is ready
 
"Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G1H41D.LH5@lugnet.com... (...) doing, (...) keyboard? (...) Yup. :-) No, I had just sat down to check on some stuff after being off the machine doing whatever--I do periodic lugnet checks (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: October MOTM Voting is ready
 
(...) Dang, Tim. You posted this 9 minutes after I announced. What were you doing, sitting around waiting for me with your reply finger poised over the keyboard? :-) -- Terry (got his fave already picked) K -- (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Couple of feature requests: 1. Have it accept model files when launching. You know, pass the filename to the program as it starts. This would make for an excellent viewer when added to the right-click menu in explorer. And it could also be (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: October MOTM Voting is ready
 
"Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G1H2L0.I50@lugnet.com... (...) Come (...) vote (...) be (...) Thanks Terry. Wow...the competition is VERY tough this month. My decision will take a little while. -- Tim Courtney - (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  October MOTM Voting is ready
 
Hi all, The voting for the LDraw.org October Model Of The Month is ready to go. Come on over and take a gander at what's new, and what's still in the running. Pick your fave and make someone happy. (URL) a reminder - one vote only. The system logs (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) I think a monetary limit on a redistribution charge is better than disallowing fees entirely, which I think is what Jacob wanted. My point is that if it actually costs money to distribute, and you prevent cost recovery, you discourage people (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
"Leonardo Zide" <leonardo@centroin.com.br> wrote in message news:39CFBA54.A0214F....com.br... (...) Yup. (...) I still say that we need a dedicated subgroup of Lugnuts to take care of LCAD - whether it pertains to all of LCAD or to just the people (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDLite extended syntax (was: Re: Parts license)
 
(...) No, I havn't, but past performance is no indication of future results. :) (...) Oh, I just trimmed down the page because it was too long. That should all still be in the readme files. -gyug (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) By category, probably. On slow disk systems, it may be adventagous to pre-load and cache an entire category of common parts. It also opens to door for people to release a collection of pieces only as a complete set. One might choose to put the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) I think all of those examples are simply conversions to other formats, they don't change the contents of the files. This could be added to the 'Definitions' section of the license. (...) From the zlib license: 1. The origin of this software (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
(...) I thought there could be both ldraw.org and LCAD, where ldraw.org is a subgroup from the LCAD community. But that's not important now. :) (...) Why not use Lugnet (1) ? We could use it instead of ldraw.org, so we wouldn't need to have any new (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
(...) I think one of the points of creating GPL was to have a 'brokering party' available for everyone who wants to use it. There's no need to modify anything. Here's an paragraph from the GPL: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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