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  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) [...] I guess, since the - does nothing to the original designation and if there is only one model in the instructions the - denotes that. (...) I disagree. We should not offer the 'official' alternate models on the back of the box for (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) This is a complex issue. The thing is, what is easy to click together with Lego could be difficult with LDraw. I would say LDraw uses submodels much more often than Lego would in its instructions. Say for example an angled wing assembly like (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Yes. Ok, now for absolute clarity. The set is called SXXXX-YY.mpd (complete package) A model within the set is called SXXXXa.dat A submodel of a model is called SXXXXa1.dat But a submodel of a one model set would be called ?? would it be (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) No. If these models are MPD format, the first line of an mpd is going to be 0 Name: 7140-99.dat to denote the dat filename. A program can easily pick it up once they give model titles to look at the second line. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) What about the following, considering a set with instructions for one or more alternate models as well: sXXXX-YY.dat display file, XXXX is the set number, YY is the year, shows all models and alternate models, possibly with 0 CLEAR inbetween. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Like Tim, I prefer S because a model could be part of a set. (...) I strongly advise that we switch lines one and two so that this shows up on the first line as the title of the dat file. We should also include the official name of the theme. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) as (...) depth. (...) as (...) can be used (...) individual (...) Service (...) and the (...) models up in (...) Lego set, a (...) OK I can live with that. (...) c...etc. let the (...) appearing in the (...) Do you have to have everything that (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) between a (...) (commmonly known as (...) number, or a (...) the model and (...) be omitted. (...) cause some (...) Exactly! :) OK, I guess we've reached the decision that the first letter is to be S instead of M. What I had origonally done (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) This is not necessary if we can create subfolders that models can be stored in. There should be no requirement to what the folder name is, nor should it be a specific 'style.' People should be able to create whatever folder they want to and (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
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  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Thought - with this system, how are you going to distinguish between a model (component in a set) and a component of a model (commmonly known as submodel)? There should then be two letters after the set number, or a letter and a number (ie. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would agree with all except this. My reason is because 'set' can be used to refer to the entire package, where 'model' would refer to individual items within a set. ie. Terminal, Airplane, Helicopter, and Service Vehicle for an airport set. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
OK since the header seems to be a problem I will use set 7130 as an example and I will explain each part of the header in depth. 0 Name: M7130-99.dat 0 Snowspeeder 0 Author: Ryan Dennett 0 Official Model Repository OK line one: M stands for model, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) The submodel and model are the same thing by your definition. I agree with keeping 'model' as the term for this and use submodel to replace component in definition. (...) No need to put 'first model' in there. The other file eader would be: 0 (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Yes. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I am going to strongly go with the MPD download myself. (...) Hmmm.... that is a good thought.... I would go for that, since they could theoretically take the place of instructions. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
I don't want to intrude too much in this debate, but John has a very good point. Whatever you decide to do, do NOT use just a number-only file name. That is guaranteed to cause problems with part files. -- Terry K -- (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I suggest that this or other simmilar lines about the model go on the *first* line of the file, as that is the normal place for the title of a DAT file. That way, if LDAO or some other utility is ever improved to show the title of the model, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) What's the difference between your definition of model and submodel? Is this correct for the Red Bird Rig (Model Team don't know the number) 1st model: truck w/ plane submodels: tractor trailer plane 2nd model: jeep w/ racecar submodels: jeep (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
"jonathan wilson" <wilsonj@xoommail.com> 140.dat (...) For neatness's sake, I think we shoud keep the capitalization clean: 0 Set: <set num> <Theme> <Model Name> <year> 0 Name: <filename> 0 Author: <Name> <<email>> 0 Official LEGO Group Model 0 (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would greatly prefer ZIP and/or MPD (I just thought of another idea for LDLite (sorry gyug): ZIP support). I think inlining makes it too difficult to follow the building process. About following the building process, will it be required that (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Wouldn't adding the year take care of this? Or you could take the pause/lugnet approach: s6938-1.dat s6938-2.dat etc.. submodels of this set could be: s6938-1a.dat s6938-1b.dat etc.. It just barely fits in the 8.3 format, but it would probably (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) and (...) send them if (...) we can to get (...) Tim, I'm the person who was supposed to be helping with the reviewing and editting so that 'we' also refers to me. Who else was willing to help? I'll still review and edit, but could someone (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Typically, sets with duplicate numbers have nothing to do with each other.[1] So it isn't really accurate to consider one set as an alternate of the other. Steve 1) There are exceptions, where variations of a set are available, such as 6938, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I agree. Although having both the instructions and the set is infinitely better than having neither the instructions nor the set, a set can probably be *checked* having only the instructions and not the set, to an accuracy of 99% or higher (if (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) I would have to say that to check these it would be highly reccommended that you have the actual set. but again, that depends on the size and complexity of the model. Obviously just instructions would do for a small car, but might not for say (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) If they're related or not is beyond me, but someone could investigate the duplicates to look for similarities. The duplicates are never in production at the same time, so they are a few years apart at the least. They could be of the same theme (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
John VanZwieten wrote in message ... (...) set (...) different (...) only (...) "T7140a_1". I (...) how (...) What if we would consider the content of a duplicate set as alternate models of the same set numbers. Eg. 7140 is duplicate set then, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) That's a great question. Someone with only the instructions ought to be able to find suspicious looking things (e.g., potential mistakes), but probably can't prove something to be 100.00% correct. Some LEGO instruction booklets do contain (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Ahh, nope, I'm not. Well, not exactly. There are two different ways to look at "uninlining": one view is that it's simply removing the extra code, and restoring the original reference statement. This approach works, as long as you have the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) Hmm, that would be useful. But so far, I've avoided the Win32 common controls, and I'd like to keep it that way. I've even gone so far as to implement toolbars as PictureBoxen with CommandButtons. BTW, if you'd like to have a go at (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
Good thinking on this, but there is one problem not addressed: duplicate set numbers. For this we will need at least one character to distinguish different sets with the same number. But this puts us over the 8+3 characters. The only character we (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
Tim, Using the set number only is a problem, especially for part authors. In my models directory, a number-only file means a part I'm working on, while models are indicated with a preceding "m". -John Van Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) model repository, I (...) made any TLG models (...) email them to me (...) set number as the (...) set number and ** (...) M7140-99 for (...) that it is a (...) Yes, we had, and to explain why; some people might have unofficial parts in their (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) and ** (...) I believe Papp Imre's file naming system would be more complete here. (...) I agree with your choice on the model name. We could also use that to include sub-theme and theme for people who do not know the catalogs as well as (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) You are correct here. (...) Probably a (very) good idea. (...) I don't think it is at all. I think you're right on with this file system. From what I've skimmed (sorry, I'm busy this morning) you have done an excellent job at coming up with a (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) Ryan and I had decided on M####-**, where #### stood for the set number and ** stood for the last two digits of the year it was released (i.e. M7140-99 for the X-Wing). The date would be replaced by a letter to denote that it is a submodel. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
Dear Tim, I agree with idea to standardize the TLG model header and filename. Some comments: Tim Courtney wrote in message ... (...) 1. If we use the plain set number as filename, this may lead to confusion, because I'm sure there are identical part (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
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  Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
(...) do you need to own the set to be able to check it? or would the instructions suffice? (...) 0 7140 x-wing fighter 0 author: Jonathan Wilson 0 Official Model (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Official Model Repository
 
In order to begin assembling the ldraw.org official (TLG) model repository, I need to begin collecting TLG models in Ldraw. If you have made any TLG models you would be willing to contribute to the repository, please email them to me in .dat or .mpd (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: fixes??
 
It's in 1.7, which will get released as soon as work lets up a bit. Thanks for the code. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  [ldraw.org] Donations
 
All needed donations for ldraw.org have been recieved. Thanks to all of you who have donated: Larry Pieniazek Terry Keller Mike Stanley Jean-Pierre Paris Lars Hassing John VanZwieten The money will be taken care of soon and sent off to Todd to (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jun-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Software Download Templates
 
I need to ask for help from those of you who have created utilities that are designed for use with LDraw or LDraw .dat format files. ldraw.org will be offering a centralized download section for these utilities. If you have created one of these (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jun-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) I'll do that. Steve (25 years ago, 9-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  anyone working in these SW parts?
 
is anyone working on/has anyone made the folowing SW parts? these,the droid fighter wedge,minifig parts and patterened parts are the only SW parts i need for my collecion. roadsign traingle clipon gungun sub propellor hinge click plate (25 years ago, 9-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Got Vote?
 
Hey all, We need to wrap up the voting on update 9905. If you haven't voted yet, I suggest you do so soon. I will be out of town this weekend, and I would like to squirt this thing out before I leave. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 9-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <375d108d.54167225@l...et.com>... (...) As far as I understand it, it's just the top-level windows that receives broadcasts. Of course, I could try to direct a message to a specific LDAO window, if you'd prefer that (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) I program mostly in VB (or worse), and have only passing knowledge of Windows messaging. You'd broadcast a custom message, right? So all windows would receive it? Or just top-level windows? This is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure I'm (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Oh, right. Sorry. THAT IS AN INTERESTING IDEA. (1) :-) -- Terry K -- 1. Do I tend to over-emphasise things? (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Hmmm. I wonder where the emphasis goes in that sentence.... Steve (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) That is an interesting idea. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <375bdf5e.3285247@lu...et.com>... (...) Well, there's always my LDList program, which can help you search in multiple categories (See blurb below). A CTRL-C copies the found line, and you can then paste into any text (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
Basically what I've got are 3 different variants in one color, which I'm sure really isn't that uncommon... though there are 3 versions of the Fig. Blue, Maroon and Black. I've already talk to Terry about this, and I believe he's letting it go at (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) I've occasionally tried to discuss this in relation to the 0 CATEGORY meta-statement, but I haven't gotten much response. Steve (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) That would break the standard LDraw file-search approach, and would only work in LDAO. Since LDAO does very little work by itself, this wouldn't be very useful. (...) My idea was to have LDAO search model files (at least the ones not in (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) You mean the torsos in the vote are from the older forestman sets? I thought someone said that the maroon ones were from 6079. Oh well, nevermind then. :) I always thought they looked more red though... Jeff (...) torsoes. (...) looked (...) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
Three colors, you say? A red version (not in my possession, but claimed to exist) and a black version (illustrated on Fibblesnork) are with Terry for a future vote. Do you have red too? With blue and maroon this makes four. Any others? Chris (...) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
6079 is the newer style forestmen.. these are the older original style, with more of a "gear" on their chest.. not the pointy "sprouts" on the Dark Forest figures. They are maroon.. among other colors as Terry and I have found out... I've got 3 (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) movement (...) I noticed something over the weekend about the maroon-collar Forestman torsoes. I was looking at the instructions for 6079 and the color of the collar is brown! This intrigued me, so I checked my minifigs, and the collar sure (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDAO Suggestion
 
(...) Since I'm using that bane to civilization known as VB, a lot of the Explorer-style interface is available, I just don't want to recreate the guts (new file, dragging-and-dropping files, etc). Unfortunately, it would make sense to do just that. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Adding a closing tag (and unique ID) is a good idea, and something that should have been done from the start. It would solve the problem of identifying the chunk of code to reverse out, and restoring the original referencing file would be (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) Well, it looks like there is a valid difference of opinion here about which format, and 2 are rather prevalent. I think we should continue discussing advantages and disadvantages and eventually vote on it. I would put my vote in for MPD if (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) I thought about that, but I was concerned about the burden of differentiating between comments and random extensions to LDraw (ie, new meta-commands). Maybe LDAO should provide/maintain a list of known meta-commands? Then the Inliner could (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: fixes??
 
(...) Did you get the changes to the way LDLite saves bitmaps that I submited about 2 months ago ? You haven't told me anything. Leonardo (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
Tim Courtney: (...) MPD. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  L3G0 in Windows
 
I've ported the Netshade ray-tracing program to Windows and sucessfully used it to render models based on the L3G0 library of parts. Most people use POV nowadays, but if you have some old files based on the Rayshade/Netshade version of the L3G0 (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
I'll put in my two-cents: gzip'ed tar files would be an excellent replacement for MPD. And Winzip handles them OK. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
The matrix math will not always invert, although if the matrix is a pure rotation (with no scaling or shears) the transpose of the matrix is the inverse. A better solution would be for the inliner to apply a start and a stop tag for each inlined (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: fixes??
 
Luckily, you have access to the LDLite source code. And it is the following lines near the top of stub.c: // replace pixels within tolerance to avoid rounding problems #define Z_LINE_TOLERANCE 2 // move lines closer to viewer before drawing to avoid (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Purtting togeher Minifigs?
 
The best and easiest way to create minifigs is using LeoCAD's minifig wizard. Since it supports dat file format, transfer to the ldraw would be very easy, too. Selçuk Jamie Obrien wrote in message <37542a04.68492046@l...et.com>... (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P color question
 
(...) 44 is usually used for trans-orange. ASFAIK, none of the three-digit numbers are transparent, they're youst dithered. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
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  Re: Star Wars parts
 
yeh, I realized that after I sent the message. I started thinking "well if 4 clicks = 90º then that must mean that 2 would = 45º and half of that would be 22.5º Thanks anyway though. Are you working on the click plate?? I was surprised it wasn't in (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P color question
 
Thanks, but I thought that was supposed to be a trans-orangeish color. Am I wrong?? I haven't used that color in a while. I that's supposed to be orange, what's trans-orange? Ryan "Build or build not. There is no try." - Lego Master Yoda ***...*** (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Star Wars parts
 
(...) 22.5 degrees per click. -John Van (25 years ago, 6-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Reference updated
 
(...) Cool. Thanks Lutz. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) I agree. It would be nice to have the capability to do a 'clean' inline. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: L3P color question
 
The LDraw colour number for orange is 462, also supported by L3P. /Tore (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  L3P color question
 
Gee, I'm just full of questions today, and I'm real glad you guys are willing to answer them. :) OK, we have a color list for Ldraw and Ldlite, but how about one for L3P. For orange in Ldlite you use 25, for Ldraw you use 4 because there is no (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Ldlite problem
 
Lately I have been having a problem with Ldlite. When I have a model highlighted in LDAO and then click my Ldlite button, it will open Ldlite, but not render the model. So I have to set all the options I want, and then go to file, open, .dat. Does (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Star Wars parts
 
A couple of questions. First, How many degrees per click for the click bricks, etc. Second,could those of you who are working on these pieces please send what you have of them(as long as it's halfway decent looking) to me. I need these pieces for an (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Parts Reference updated
 
Hi all, I have made a major update to my parts reference. Added the last updates to LDraw and also added all 8xxxx numbers as they are TLG numbers. I also added the newer colors like cyan, orange and the clear brown to L2P. Enjoy, Lutz (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) This will be great! Would there be any way to add an option to leave out the file information comments lines of subfiles (or maybe just all comments) when inlining? If you use several levels of subparts when creating a part, then inline it, it (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Voting page 9905
 
(...) Yup, they are the ones, on each half-cylinder - Chris (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Modeling the tan color
 
(...) Thanks Lars and Jonathan. Like I thought, there was something out there that would help. James (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: Modeling the tan color
 
(...) The LDraw FAQ at (URL) says: Tan LDraw: 382 RGB: 204 170 102 LDLite: 19 Color 382 is recognized by all applications, color 19 only by LDLite. /Lars (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Modeling the tan color
 
color #19 will do it. it will only show tan in ldlite birt it will be there. (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Old Magnet
 
the magnet holder piece is also found on the 4.5v battery boxz. the base of this bix is similar to the base part as well except that the wheels are black. (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Modeling the tan color
 
Please pardon the possible redundancy of this post. I'm not sure how to model the tan color of the new Star Wars sets (as well as the Indiana Jones knock-offs). Is there a FAQ, web site, readme, or whatever that will tell me how to define this (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [ldraw.org] Progress
 
(...) I think so too. (...) Then there is that. (...) Oops. Quite right. (...) That is assuming the file will be viewable online of course. Which would be a good idea. And, if it uses lugnet to archive them, will be just so. Hmm.... have the server (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: why is it that...
 
(...) It is a time-consuming task, believe it or not. And even if you did the work, I would have to go through each file and check for accuracy and adherance to formatting standards. Which takes about the same time. And, sorry to say, your past (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Well, you can currently edit MPD files -- if you have LDLite hooked up as the viewer, it deals with the MPD issues. Hmmm. I haven't played around with this very much, I should do so. But I was thinking of a multi-window MPD editor, that would (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) Sure! But what kind of support? Aside from "Open Subfile", I mean. (...) :-D Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) That was my point exactly: the inline operation applies the transform information from the reference statement on to each of the inlined statements. So cut and paste can only move the modified lines into a file with the same name. (...) That's (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
Following up myself to resolve a dangling footnote... (...) [1] In the next version of LDAO, the stand-alone inliner will allow you better control over the inlining process. Specifically, there will be options/buttons to: - Select all subfiles - (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Lossless outlining (Was: [ldraw.org] Progress)
 
(...) I you're running Emacs, you can use my LDraw-mode to do inlining. And you can even choose the number of decimal places to preserve! It defaults to two, though. Inlining in Emacs has the obvious advantage that you see what you get while still (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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