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(...) Ok, then I tender my apologies to Chris regarding the posting on Lugnet of the link to the contest. (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Look at it from the realistic side. The more exposure you have, the more chances something you wrote will upset someone else. Ever since I joined the community, Larry has consistantly been the most active participant here on Lugnet. This and (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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(...) it bad style). It seems some people are here more for the *discussion* than for the *subject of discussion* (Lego). If I were you, I'd remove that poll ASAP, and publish an apology. Your way is not the right one for calming a stormy sea. (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I can agree with you that the level of communication has been rather low. In fact I'm almost getting withdrawal symptoms, as the 'signal-to-fight' ratio has gone so low. I *know* that Larry has done, and does, a *lot* of good work for the (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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(...) Just to clarify, it was Lenny, in (URL) that posted the link here in lugnet, not Chris. -Rob A> (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Now there's the pot calling the kettle black... :P Rob (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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(...) Ok, Ok, I'll stop ragging on that one.. I just thought the phrase ' condensing and rude attitudes' was too hilarious to ignore... I'm sorry , I still can't think it without laughing. (...) Ok, I will acceed this point. True (...) True, I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Since we're airing our grievances, here are My Top Ten Gripes About Larry Pieniazek 10. Bogarted the nachos 9. Constantly showcases his exhaustive knowledge of “Growing Pains” trivia 8. Can’t seem to come up with an English word rhyming with “month” (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Joseph Greene wrote: <snip> (...) And I'll say that there's a history shared between Larry and Chris that not all of us are privvy to. I know Chirs, and he wouldn't have done this out of some quick 'off-the-cuff' "I'm bored (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Greg, please be assured, that I did not believe for a moment that all of rtlToronto was in agreement on this. I simply meant to imply the group of those who did encourage and donate to the spiteful cause. (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) This was meant as a Jibe. (...) While it is true that he has canceled the contest, the very creation of such a vicious attack shows, IMHO, a distinctly closed minded and petty mindset. I do acknowledge that he canceled the contest, but only at (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'd call a cheap shot. It's not up to us to say how LUGNET is supposed to be run.... there are rules, and in the case this no doubt relates to, the rules were followed to the T. If people can't deal with the rules they should pick up their (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Tim, With respect, you are being obsequious. Can people not draw any conclusion from the fact that Larry has probably had more spats with more people than anyone else on LUGNET? Can they not make a judgment based on his willingness to flout (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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(...) This kinda reminds me of that Star Trek:TNG episode, when Data was 'acting captain' aboard, I beleive, the Endeavour... His first officer asked to be transferred because, and this is from meory so it'll be wrong... "Just as I don't believe (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Not directed at you, Tim ('cause I like you and all...) but I wonder how people would have felt if someone told Jefferson, et al. the above--"Don't go attacking those British lords in (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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(...) **snip** (...) Yeah, I thought the guidelines might have been spelled-out already but didn't know where. Now that I think of it, I remember that Larry answered my earlier question about timeout policy. But now that you mention it, I have a (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think most people know I'm not much of a "me too" guy. But sometimes, you just have to say, ME TOO! Larry's work has been dilegent and has profoundly contributed to our community. Larry's work in all the aspects of the community that he has (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people)
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I'm ashamed of all the Larry-bashing that's been taking place. If you've only interacted with the man online (which I believe is the case with some of his harshest critics), you have no perspective on who he really is. Hence, you're really not (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people) !
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(...) This hasn't been discussed on the list, and I'm sure there are probably a variety of opinions, but I'll offer mine. Overriding the FUT of an article alters the article's metadata item known as the "Followup-To" header. While this is not part (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmm. Can an admin veto his/her own suspension? ;) Scott A (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Lenny, Why is he so unpopular? If it is due to his poor interpersonal skills, why not have him do the behind the scenes stuff? Scott A (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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(...) What I don't understand Janey - is how does anyone see what Chris did as analogous to what is normally done here on Lugnet? When I read his post, I don't see rhetoric, I don't see criticism, I don't see anything that could be construed as (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Agreed. I rarely take part in these forums any more because of this kind of snowballing stupidity. Chris and Terry were hardly the only ones breaking 'posting guidelines'. They were both baited as well, with "nothing new being brought to the (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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(...) Well I dunno about any other editing, but I don't consider changing the FUT as editing, as it is only a suggestion anyway. All they are changing is where they'd like followups to go - you are still free to override that. And NNTP admins have (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I would actually like an aswer to this. I would like to know what is and what is not considered 'editing' by the Lugnet Admin team. M (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wow. I could see maybe a few days or a week or something, because I agree that some things were said that probably shouldn't have been. But indefinitely? Do Chris and Terry really rank up there with Matthew Moulton and Richard Marchetti, who (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) You guys are truly out of control - this is just amazing. The only thing being done here is making things much worse. And yes, Larry should be removed from the Admin team for his lack of respect towards the Lugnet members - it is a shame an (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Don't be so sure. Many harvesters look for "@" and surrounding text to see if it looks like an email address. And still others just look for the words "at" and "dot" in close proximity. Don't underestimate the cunning of people willing to piss (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) YAY Dave!!!!!!! Pushed to protest..... I tried earlier to get suspended, I came really really close, but apparently it's not that easy to do. I sent this email to Todd, from which he sent it out to the rest of the admins with my permission. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !!
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(...) Your change should work well enough. Being that you have used plain text rather than linkable mailto: HTML is good, too. I think that is the one major change I need to make to my email address on the .market sidebars. I don't know anything (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote: <snip> (...) I go play with my LEGO collection for an evening, leaving y'all alone and this is what you come up with??? Wow. Here's the thing--now, that the dust is settling, and we all have hindsight, (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !
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(...) Yes, I have been and will continue to do so. I view them very differently. Maybe its just me. snip (...) Is the line the same for Admins, or are they held to a higher standard? (...) Me too, but it is nap time. Have a good evening, and thanks (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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After the recent furore it would be interesting to see what Lugnetters think on this issue. (URL) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks Kevin Salm, I just updated them with the SPAM block. Do you know if the spam block I used should he sufficient, or should I randomize it more? -Lenny (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
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As curator for the Market hierarchy, I have posted an email address on each sidebar page so people may contact me. This works pretty well. The email address I use for the sidebars is used ONLY for this purpose. As such the volume of mail sent and (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
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(...) I personally wouldn't feel it was a personal insult if worded exactly as you have it here. I also wouldn't want to see my name there instead of Larry. I hope you understand the difference between a poll asking for people's opinion of Larry (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Perhaps I should word my responce differently. To me, treating someone with respect is essentially the same as respecting them. Regardless, treat everyone with respect. (...) Well, you asked whether it was a vote. I thought maybe you thought (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Well then, would the Lugnet Admins consider it a personal insult if I was to create a poll: "Do you think Lugnet Admin is a good job match for Larry?" "Yes" "No" "Don't know" "Don't care" ROSCO (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I am referring to this post, where Larry is berating, resorts to name calling, to the point of questioning people's manhood. From where I'm sitting as an Admin, this is crossing the line. (URL) this post: (URL) respect Larry for 12407 (...) If (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) It sounds to me like there isnt anything Lar can do to 'cut it' with you. What Lar said is that he is responsible for his actions regardless of any context - including being provoked. I personally am very pleased by Lar's public statement of (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) You require is completely unreasonable. Good luck enforcing it. What is required is that people be treated with respect, which is not the same as having respect for them. Again, I will point out that Larry has been extremely disrespectull in (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I would also point out that Lar coun't resist mentioning the provocation in his "(URL) apology post>". Sounds too much like "I'm sorry, but it was his fault" which just doesn't cut it with me. ROSCO (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !
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(...) Thank you for your thoughtful responce. For the time being, I respectfully disagree. -Lenny (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Believe me, I understand. My life goal has always been to be a type B person. I'm not there yet. Please note that I suggested that we *all* take a timeout. As much as I love lugnet, I would not volunteer to be an Admin. I do not have the (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It is required that all other members be respected. Those who have volunteered to give their time and efforts to the better good, especially. On a more legalistic note, posts by Admins as Admins (using the @lugnet address) should be considered (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Kevin, You may not have ever been in this sort of position - but it is extremely stressful. Todd's legacy of the 'Buddha' responce to everything is something to strive towards, but is difficult to always achieve. Please understand that we are (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Take a deep breath. Go for a walk. (...) I certainly find this paragraph combative. It certainly is name calling, and questioning of manhood. (...) In some ways it is similar. (...) You have my permission to take a break. In fact I recommend (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Is it required? (...) Then I object again. (...) And yet, Admins can insult and berate sarcastically and have no warnings or admonishment of any kind? (...) Kevin (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) You are in good company! That's exactly why that usage was invented some time in the last couple of centuries. You could also read it as "Oh my gosh" or even "Oh my golly". Gosh and golly (euphemisms for God) were also invented to stop people (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I should note that, in accordance with our given policy, Larry's posting abilities have been revoked for all of Lugnet. The suspension is for 24 hrs beginning right now (9pm EST). -Lenny Hoffman LUGNET Admin Member #1168 (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I formally acknowledge that the LUGNET ToU applies to me as much as it does to anyone else, and that the post referenced (which has been cancelled) contained inappropriate and disrespectful remarks. I further acknowledge the authority of the (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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Again, following standard Admin policy concerning inappropriate language: Larry Pieniazek has been suspended for 24 hours for (URL) this post>. His posting abilities are limited to the admin heirarchy, as is the usual policy for suspension. -Leonard (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(this is a repost with some inappropriate language and phrasing removed) (...) You posted a post that contained a word that clearly violates the ToU. It matters not whether you quoted it, or what context you used it in, that particular word is one (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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(...) Crass and rude insults *will* be tolerated it seems. I think, the last para of this is (URL) post> is crass, rude and insulting to several users. -snip- (...) Nope. Not by a long shot. Regards Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Not entirely true. Chris (URL) his contest out of respect for Todd - which shows that Chris does not respect Todd's choices in who Todd has elevated to Admin status. (...) It followed the established process for suspensions. An Admin proposed (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Yes. Weeks. This has been brewing for weeks, It only piqued in the last few days. But people have been bickering (from both sides) on this topic for weeks. (...) All your words are on the good list, but your tone is clearly provacative. Do you (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I object. Chris withdrew is contest out of respect for lugnet. I do think there are problems with the rules and their administration by some of the admins. I believe that both are workable while reenstating the respectful tone that we all used (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) No, they can't. I'm totally at a loss. PS: You might wanna review you links before you post next time, the examples of posts by Chris point to the same post. ROSCO (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Call it inspired. I need to be getting more active in my Admin role, especially in getting information where it logically should be. I also wanted to emphasize that thoughtful criticism will always be taken seriously, and action will happen as (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't see him posting this contest here. He posted on "JLUG". There's a difference. (...) First, they're your words in that post. It's obvious Chris doesn't like you, but I wouldn't call that baiting by any means. If you didn't want to have (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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Chris Magno has been suspended indefinately for baiting and personal attacks. Specifically his 'contest' to drive out Lugnet Administrator Larry Pieniazek shows his rampant disrespect for Lugnet, the Lugnet Administration, and for the Lugnet ToU. (...) (18 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I guess he took the gloves off too. (...) In your own words, why do you see it that way? (...) Is cross-posting creating problems? If it is, we could set the "can't crosspost to" bit on .org.ca.rtltoronto, which would mediate the amount of (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney wrote: <snip> (...) Dave, Don't and not cancel each other out so what you get is "I'm strongly advocating for you to *be( stopped as well as posting this in public either." Sticking to issues not people, I find (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Wow that was fast, thanks Lenny. -Orion (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) For much of its history, lugnet has had very little active policing of posts by admins. In the days before the transition team evolved into admins on lugnet, the place wasn’t overrun with swearing. Occassionally someone would do ‘wrong’ and (...) (21 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Elsewhere he can, subject to the rules and regulations, if any, of whatever place he does so. Not here. Here he is subject to the ToS like everyone else. So, to say that "he can do whatever he wants" is false, unless you add the codicil, "and (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Good idea, I'll put this on the admin.general page. -Lenny (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I was just curious who was behind that address. I was going to suggest an address that all current admins receive. For instance, several ldraw.org addresses go to Tim and I. I think this helps out since I'm not always immediately available to (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hi Orion, I had to go double-check, but currently it still comes to me. Do you think it would be more helpful if it went to N people? I try to address everything that arrives to that address, but sometimes things slip through the cracks. I do (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Who receives the mail sent to admin AT lugnet dot com? Is it everyone who's an admin or one admin in particular? -Orion (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Respectfull communication. Which has not been happening here. I think Todd has been pretty clear for quite some time what the policy on language is. Sure, it isn't spelled out (and the admin team has recognized that the TOU DO need updating), (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I did. I also thought about the implications or the extra-ordinary problem that would take Dave K to actually stand up and say something that runs contary to the 'status quo', at least where the administration is concerned. What about those (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) With due respect, what recourse do we have if an admin is found to be grossly unsatisfactory in some way? I'm not saying that any of them are, but what if it should occur? Does the average LUGNET member just sit around waiting for that admin (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) And that's what some of us are considering. What we are doing however, by pointing out that we are close to the edge is that people are making Lugnet unfun to run. If all the admins decide it's unfun, then Lugnet goes away. I hope everyone (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I had difficulty resolving the grammar of Tim's line, but my final analysis was that Tim wasn't advotating any repurcussions from the admins directed at Chris for his posting about the cancelled competition here. But re-reading it, I'm more (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) May the first person that has never made a "speeling" mistake cast the first (tongue in cheek) inflamMatory spellcheck. snipped the rest (since it's just one post above) Hello, You brought up some interesting points, but I am a bit confused. I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto) !
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(...) Joseph, Chris canceled his contest. Is that not at least some willingness on his part to look at other sides of the issue? Chris, I don't know Tim to be closed minded any more than any of us here. Why are people so often labeled as "closed (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) So you're threatening to revoke Chris' posting privileges in retaliation for his criticism of the Admins? Sounds like you're making Chris' case for him. Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Magno wrote: <SNIP> (...) I still want to know: What is he condensing? (...) Actually, you seem to have proven yourself to be extremely closed minded in your unwillingness to look at the other side of the issue. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's very kind of you. Nicely done. I take back my previous allusions... Dave K (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Actually, you are correct! I did make a post which, the next morning I re-read and requested to have it canceled as I felt it excessively vitriolic. If I recall correctly it contained NO ToU violations and did not generate a request for it to (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Joseph Greene wrote: <snnip> Is this the same Joseph Greene who posted this (cancelled) message?-- (URL) were saying something about playing nice in someone elses pond? Hmmm, let's think about what gets a post cancelled (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Then let them come forward with *constructive* opinions on how to solve their grievances. NOT hide behind destructive tactics such as this. Your actions and their encouragement are wholly unnecessary and completely distructive to the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Uh, don't lump us all in to this... that goes for both of you, Chris and Joseph. -Greg Hyland (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) TIM, People FEAR repercussions and choose to remail veiled!!! To call them cowards is insulting. I dont come at this lightly, AND I am certainly NOT alone. (...) ON line, Lar HAS contributed much. I agree, BUT that does not make this statement (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ROFLMAO, so what is Larry condensing? Milk? If you are going to post inflamatory remarks about an individual. Get it right or borrow a dictionary. Now I've known Larry for a few years, and while it is true that he can come off as (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I have never met Lar. I have traded discussion posts with him many times, not always to our mutual satisfaction, but I think (or at least hope) that we still respect each others views. When I read Chris's posts in this thread, a very old post (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Mmmm, milk and cookies! My favorite diet! Unfortunately, this might backfire by encouraging people to post things that would result in being served milk and cookies. After all, milk and cookies are a reward, not a punishment :-) Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) ... (...) I must state here, even though I am not very active at all currently in adminly duties, my extreme disappointment with your behavior and the behavior of the people encouraging you who have been too cowardly to come out and make (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) First, this has nothing to do with rtlToronto. Some of our members may dislike Larry, some may like him. In general, the sentiment up here tends to lean to the former from what I can tell. Regardless, it has nothing to do with the group (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd, since you responded, and this is your sandbox, I will respectfully withdraw the contests, out of regard for Lugnet. After all I do like the place. You have made your point clear and I will respect your wishes, this contest was of my own doing (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Chris, why are you doing this? Why are you attempting to undermine LUGNET administration? What do you hope to gain by it? What do your friends in rtlToronto think of your antics? You think it's fun to run a contest that ridicules someone? (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hear, hear! Tim and Stefan, I wholeheartedly concur. To become stressed out over little plastic bricks--however valuable they may be--is quite silly when you think about it. We all have our differences (sorry, that's just a "duh" statement) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Dave, Does your complaint about whiners count as whining? Or is it only meta-whining? I'm easily confused. Mike (21 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) word life, yo. D. (21 years ago, 3-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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OK, maybe we really do need two different discussions to happen, but the two are inextricably intertwined. Filters would catch the slips and that'd be a Good Thing(TM). Admins then have to deal with the bad eggs who intentionally try to beat the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It is a sad fact that people in the Western world are getting more and more stressed out, and the result is often bickering and whining in all kinds of situations which used to be a source for relaxation, all smiles and warm, fuzzy feelings. (...) (21 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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The problem is that we're not dealing with momentary issues where someone mistypes or whatnot. Willy went out of his way to use a cuss, and then went out of his way to obfuscate the Admin's process of dealing with his cuss. A filter won't deal with (...) (21 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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