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(...) Hi Ken, I don't think David is looking for a fight. I think many of us are curious about this because it is all so public. You obviously felt that Larry's comments were a personal attack against you, and first I want to acknowledge to you that (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) SNIP (...) I don't care what you think. I've detailed the awnsers to every one of your questions elsewhere in the thread. Others have agreed with me. This is not a debate forum. If you are looking for a fight move on. Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This is what I thought at the onset of the problem. I thought just because his name was every where in the community he was to be respected. From talking to others I've found out I was wrong. Respect is earned not granted because one is there. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) No I passed along public information as witnessed by the fact I found it throught normal public channels. (...) Don't know what they wanted announced but the fact is the horse was out of the barn. (...) My assessment is the fact that you are (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I don't see how you could construe it as a personal attack. He explicitly said that he thought you WEREN'T responsible for the error. Besides, even if he DID think you were responsible, it was him pointing out the error, not accusing you of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) wow, I guess I've been away for a while. I'm not even following this thread - I read only Lar's and this one. But it's enough for me to see that there's rudeness being flung toward those who deserve the community's respect. This is directed at (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX) !!
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Snipped a lot of stuff to get to the crux. (...) So you're not denying that you did in fact pass around unannounced information? (regardless of source, it was unannounced, right?) (...) Irrelevant. Was it unannounced at the time? If so, are you (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I've addressed this complete with quotes from Lugnet polocies and updates. It's not a debate. Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Technically, the "no baiting/no bickering" policy isn't new, it's been in place for a while, and we treat it as part of the ToS although we acknowledge that the TOU document should be revised to include that material. (...) Bingo. That was (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You are pathetic. I guess your apology wasnt worth the keystrokes it took to enter it. The manager had in his hands printouts of my posts. (...) I don't have to say it. It's there for everyone to refere back to. (...) That info came from (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) All I know is what I ws told. I said I didn't mention anythiing that wasn't public knowledge and the reply was "That doesn't matter" Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This seems a bit misplaced... How did Larry violate the TOU? By bringing up your employment? By correcting the library's wording? By saying that he didn't think you were the one responsible for the wording? For a few grammar and spelling (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Duane Hess wrote: (snip) A couple of points: the text Duane posted in the top of this thread was originally sent to me and I shared it with the rest of the admin team. There is a lot of good, thought provoking material in (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Ken, I don't expect you to, and I do respect that you have your own personal opinions about Lego even if I don't always agree with them. But the point here is that other individuals have participated (speaking as themselves) in Lugnet while (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Assuming that's actually why he was terminated. Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that they have the whole story, all the facts. As we have seen so many times before, that may not be the case. There may be more to this than that. Who (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Wow, that just completely sucks. And it seems more than a bit unfair, since I've seen employees at a LEGO Imagination Center store READING LUGNET ON THE STORE COMPUTERS!!! Ken, you have my sympathy. I think LEGO really screwed you over on this (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) And the point is? I take back nothing that was said. (...) I wasn't trying to keep it a secret however it wasn't up to a Lugnet administrator to violate the TOU and raise it up the flag pole. (...) Having you feel sorry for me is so far down (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I was directly involved in the Maersk debate with Mr. Nagel, including a post where he accused his employer of lying to the public: (URL) That was the first thing that came to mind when I started reading this thread. At the time, had I known (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) demoralizing is more like it! personaly i would like to see a written letter stating why ken was fired. as far as the leak goes, my guess is that it was vary same person who threatened my job when the color issue came out. as for larry's post, (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I guess I have to totally agree. Although admittedly I don't see why there's a beef with Larry. I'm not sure he acted inappropriately in any way-- Just those at Lego. (...) Do you think this comes out of your recent color/Maersk debate, and (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This would be why I waited untill Friday to bring anything up. I've seen how fast you can move when you want to. Face it you blew this one. Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes and yes... I discused this with more than a few people. If I were to share any of it with you then it would be me doing the personal attacks. As for the privacy part I'm no longer a Lego employee. What do you think? Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ken, I assure you that making Lugnet as wonderful as possible is indeed our goal. However, e-mail isn't an instant communications mechanism, and anytime you've got a group of people working on serious issues, it can take time to formulate a (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ken, use the reasonable person scenario for this issue. In other words, if I grabbed some average Joe off the street and showed them Larry's post would they think is was a personal attack or an invasion of privacy? Seeing as that the original (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) LOL!!! Before or after the bley boycott??? it's not the greatest place to work. I know more than one prominent member of the community that quit having found the experience dissapointing. -Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm not a paying member. The quote is exact. It just demonstrates the ignorance of those making the decisions. As a part time bottom of the barrel nothing I still signed a non-disclosure agreement at the time of hire. They are parinoid latly (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) "he messed it up..etc" is exactly a personal attack and far less than I was doing when he decided to start hammering on me and I was in a debate forum where the comments were appropriate. It wasn't any of his right to be publicly posting who I (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'm still confused. You were fired from your job as a Lego employee because you posted to Lugnet? Because you're a paying member? Because you posted something that contained the word "Legos"? Because Larry reported the fact that you posted (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You read it right.-Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You owe an appology to the library and NILTC (...) They should also police their own which obviously they didn't. (...) It was only posted where the original message and the policy update went making it tottaly appropriate. Ken (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) So you got fired for being a member of LUGNET? If this is true, I would say an AFOL boycott of the LEGO stores may be in order. (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I suppose you could say that-- and I'd like to think that nobody would discriminate based on such things, but it's information that sometimes helps me get a handle on who I'm talking to. Often before responding to someone on Lugnet that I (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) On it's surface, Larry's post doesn't seem to be a personal attack nor an invasion of privacy. If it was to you, he apologized which in my opinion is probably the best course action for a unintended offense. -Orion (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I really don't see the need to turn this into a debate too however, directly from the policy update "personal attacks, i.e. bringing more heat than light to a discussion... also known as attacking the person, not the position". Directly from (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I agree with your reasoning, words aren't bad. It's all contextual. You can bet we're talking with people whose posts are inappropriate, trigger words or not. It's just that the ones with the f-bomb and such are only the most obvious. The (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Maybe I'm not reading this right--you were fired for being a member of LUGNET?! I hope I'm just misunderstanding the sentence, because that seems pretty harsh. (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I am flabbergasted by this thread. I have no animosity toward Ken. I made a joke, nothing more, and it was directed at whoever wrote the copy, as I pretty clearly stated then. It fell flat, apparently, because no one else riffed on it, but oh (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) And, whereas I agree with you that no one is immune to theToS of LUGNET, please show where Larry violated that in the specific wording of his post. Again, just becaouse you don't like what was said, doesn't mean what was said violates the ToS. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
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Hello! (...) I get the impression you are all for stigmas, are you? (I react quite sensitively on things like that, as in the country where - by chance - I was born, in the past stigmas were being used to discriminate people in the most nefarious (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Sorry but being an administrator means you should be a step above the crowd in terms of you behavior. Just be cause you are taking the moment off doesnt mean the standards should be lowered. To (Loosely) quote the Policy update They are not (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
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In lugnet.trains, Ken Nagel wrote: <snip> (...) Whereas I think I can see both sides of this issue, 1- Larry wasn't posting as an admon, he was posting as a user of LUGNET, justlike the rest of us, and 2- by the very fact that he mentioned o.t.fun (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org.niltc, lugnet.org.us.clb, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
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On Tuesday the 18th I extended a simple invitation for people to Visit NILTCs next show: (URL) was responded to by Larry Pieniazek, The curator for lugnet.trains thus: (URL) copy came from the library who is very excited about this show. I would (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org.niltc, lugnet.org.us.clb, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms) !
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(...) That reminds me of a few moths ago when I used 'jackass' in a post. It's a word that has been used on 'regular TV' (not cable or after 9 p.m.) but I was offered a polite warning via e-mail. So, on the one hand I'm all for common sense (my (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I agree, it should not have been posted in "trains." I merely read the original post by clicking on it from the "top stories" box, so I was unaware of its misplacement. (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I know the difference between appropriate and inappropriate as well. I'm focusing in on this so called "pofanity" issue that the LUGNET admins seem to circling around like vultures waiting for prey. If they are not then I apologize for making (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) And my point remains the same - if someone posts a message titled "Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs!" to lugnet.trains, and I happen to be browsing lugnet.trains, I am going to assume that the letter is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Thanks Kelly, One does not have to be college educated to be able to figure out if one has violated the ToS. I couldn't recite a single item from the ToS, because it has been so long since I read it. But I know the difference between crossing (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
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(...) This sort of highlights something that I wonder about. Are smaller, out-of-the way groups more suitable for otherwise questionable behavior? With things like off-topic.debate, it's skipped by default, so there's less chance that (say) a kid (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.terms)
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(...) Nothing really to add, but I agree with Dan. I'd want to see what the administration has done-- mostly to try and gauge: - how often are these things done? - what sorts of things result in timeouts? - has <person x> been timeoutted before? How (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Hi Chris, nice to meet you. I'd've liked to converse under better circumstances, but needs must dictate. At any rate, you raise some very good points, and I appreciate your honesty. I also understand your need for some of the language, although (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX) !!
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(...) All of them? No. I'm more realistic than that. I do beleive that a new filter would go a long way towards healing what I feel is currently the biggest issue with LUGNET though, that issue being noise. Examples of the effect (and before anyone (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Just great. Next thing you know, people will spend a week talking about my balls. Steve (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I also agree. We need to appreciate the difference in cultures and distinct societies, for example, words, expressions and colloquialisms considered NOT offensive in my country are listed as "offensive", "profantity" or "lude" in other (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto) !
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(...) (not an admin by any means). Wow - this is messed up. Here's what I saw your address come up as: From: "\"Steve Lane\" <@qs483.pair.com stevenrobertlane@" <nospamplease@peeron...3.pair.com My guess is that the email you entered in your posting (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Duane Hess wrote: snip (...) snip (...) Duane, that was well put. In your opinion would SOFTWARE solve all of lugnets woes? is it even doable? Chris (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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Well, now that the knowledge of my timeout is public ((URL)), I suppose I can expand publicly on the frustrations of my LUGNET experience in recent months. First, let me state that the admins were fully within their right to send me to the corner. I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Magno wrote: . <snip> (...) I back you 100% Chris. To quote the guy who came up with the "7 Words": "There are no bad words. Bad people, bad intentions, but the words themselves are not bad." *Everything* must be taken (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> (...) I personally haven't ginven this alotta thought, but I have put a little mind CPU into it, butwhat Chris stated--pretty much dead on--what are the exact rules? Where is that proverbial line (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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!!!!!! warning long pent up rant !!!...!!! (...) Kelly, Good morning. I don't think we have formally met. Nice to meet you. Please excuse any and all poor typo-s and bad spelling. Even thought I type like a 12 year old, rest assure I am not. With (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto) !
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Dear Admin I'm subscribed by Email to .Technic, and when I receive my own posts to that group via email, after my name "@qs483.pair.com" has been added. I'm wondering, how has this fault happened and at whose end is it, mine or yours? Also what can (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's some pretty smart thinking. Of course, now I'm tempted to just throw the data into an SQL db... Hmmm. (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ja, I can pay it for you. Just fill out the form: (URL) send me the given PayPal-ID and ref-#. I can send you my bank account by mail. Leg Godt! René (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It's NOT resolved, see here: (URL) Godt! René (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's effective in general for running forums, boards, groups, guestbooks etc. in Germany. (...) No, on the contrary, I said, that I can not remember when I deleted an insult the last time. I think it was before I have written down the Terms (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !
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Hi, I'm not really sure where to place this question, I searched up and down without success and now I ended up here... I'd like to become a lugnet member. I'm able and willing to pay for it. The only question is: HOW? I've got no Paypal account, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Snipped the specifics of suspensions etc. (...) With all due respect, and Larry (and the Admins I presume you are also speaking for) you do know I respect you and appreciate the efforts you are making. I also know that you are well aware of (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I can see how there might be some confusion about this. Remember we do not censor posts. Nor do we control who can or cannot highlight (evince the fact that your post that I am replying to seems to have, at a time that people say they want (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) There's a little trick I use a lot to weed out duplicates: If the article being examined is in a group that's not the first one listed in the Newsgroups: header, then ignore that article, because it'll be examined in another directory. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) That's correct - each newsgroup is stored in a seperate file, so a single message posted to multiple newsgroups will have multiple copies, and will be counted multiple times. On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:38:08AM +0000, Rob Hendrix wrote: (...) I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yikes! No one has ever called me wry or witty. :) I have been called Canadian before though. Calum (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.people, Dan Boger wrote: I can post last year's as well. <snip> That would be great, Dan. I was searching for it but couldn't find it. I am curious, because I have a feeling that the overall post count was lower in 2004. I think I posted (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) Maybe it counts the cross-post as separate messages in the count. So one post in 3 newsgroups could actually counts as 3 post. jt (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I was disapointed to see that I was in the top 100 (just barely) I really need to spend more time building and less time posting. I'll do better next year :) jt (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Heh, 231... That puts me up in the top 50. Yay! How do you get this information? (21 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well slap my a$$ and call me Charlie. :] I just did the same search "Kyle D. Jackson", and found 116 posts authored by me in 2004. I didn't think I had that many. Wow. :] Anyhow, that 116 is still a big miss from the 177 in the stats list. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well I just did a quick search[1] and counted over 120 in the last 12 months, and that search may well have missed some. Those stats mount up quickly if you're not careful ;) ROSCO [1] Just searched all posts for "kyle d jackson" (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Dude, these statistics are whacked. There's no way I posted 177 messages in 2004, since I only crawled back to LUGNET part way through 2004, and don't post often. How are these stats generated? KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203 (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) w00t, moved up the list a bit (a lot) I'd be by the highest UK AFO if it wasn't for Scott Aurther and his OT posts! (next is Mark Bellis with 183) Thanks for doung that dan Tim PS Do you realise that as Amando Pin only seems to post to anounce (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Larry, I have a real lack of understanding for your behaviour to revoke posting privileges to people who only quoted "bad words" to keep the context, while the original post with those "bad words" is still public and even highlighted. You know that (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general) !!
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(...) Woo hoo! I beat Lenny by 2! Take that, Kracky! (Shakes fist at Calum) Dang you, Calum, with your wry Canadian wit, I'll get you next year. (...) I did a bit of digging: (URL) top noisemakers of 2000> (URL) top noisemakers of 2001> (URL) top (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) I know which ones you mean too. But I'll say that I personally don't like the milder ones either, I think they show lack of imagination. I am in the minority on the Admin team, so A-- gets a pass and B---- seems to fit the sitch, and S--- gets (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) More of a time issue - only wanted to spend a few minutes on it, and writing code that decides if two different email addresses are actually the same person was not worth the effort, imo. And in this particular case, my opinion was the one (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) c/is still the loudest mouth/still seems to have the most to say/ Tis possible to post less and still be a bigger loudmouth. This could be an E2L thing I guess. (...) Sounds like a coding problem on your end. :) (...) Was this posted there (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) 483rd :-( From top 100 to 483rd in two years. Mostly because I'm too busy these days. Must get back into it. (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You could say he "schooled" you [1] (...) Here is exactly what I was talking about elsewhere-- we have Daves talking about Daves. It's too much for the sensibilities:-) JOHN FU to .people; I venture not into .OT [1] Schule in German = school (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> Schuler beat me????? That vote was definitley rigged! I demand a recount! Let's get some Ohio and Florida vote counting officials in here!!! Thanks for this, Dan Dave K (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.people, Dan Boger wrote: <snip> (...) Far too many "Daves" in the top 6 for my taste>;^D Thanks, Dan! JOHN (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't remember if I did this for last year, but here's this year's. If there's interest, I can post last year's as well. Same limitations as before, deal with it :) Notice that Larry is still the loudest mouth, excep that he posted from 4 (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think having a public record of timeouts is important - not only it allows the users (that you guys are serving, right?) keep an eye on how well you're doing your job, but it also shows that _something_ is getting done, and can be used to (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I had taken it as a part of the Content Coord. position, but since there is the code freeze, theres not much point in devoting a lot of time to it. I haven't quite figured how to best do the same sort of LUG map without making it a colossal (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Tom McDonald wrote: (snip) (...) I am also aware of this (URL), which was posted while I was taking too much time refining my first post :-) -Tom McD. (URL) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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Hello. I don't usually post to this group, as I don't find it necessary. Others often voice my concerns more eloquently and cogently. But perhaps this time, Lugnet Admins can help me understand. Today, I read this post: (URL) in which 7 other groups (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) You might want to check the time and *date* on your computer. One of my computers has a bad pram battery in it. Anytime I do a cold shut down, I have to resync to the apple net time server when I start it up. If I forget, lugnet reminds me (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I would like to applaud Larry for his well reasoned approach to the *ahem* situation. Now I would like to make a part-humorous, part-serious, suggestion... Perhaps we have arrived at the point where lugnet.color needs to be subdivided ? My (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Some digging with a good search string will be needed to determine exactly what was said and by whom, but my understanding is that the LUGNET mapsets are not being updated. I think it is in part an issue that the people that were doing it got (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Some snippage. (...) I agree with Peter, I think excessive crossposting is something to be avoided. And I'm not the only person that feels that way. I'd also remind those thinking of crossposting excessively (for shock, for humor, to make a point, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I would like to second that. SANDLUG has its own newsgroup now (see (URL) is not shown on the map. Thanks Adr. (21 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
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