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Subject: 
Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
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Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:31:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Wilson writes:
I must say I can't think of a place, either on or off line, where that
kind of "social engineering" WOULD sit well. He must be quite used to
being run out of groups on a rail...

I have a question (for anyone) about the phrase "Social Engineering."  In
your experience, does the phrase automaticaly imply causing disruptions,
flamewars, etc. or can SE be done in quiet, civil ways?  If the ToS for the
discussion groups were changed so that SE was explicitly disallowed, would
it be clear what that meant.  (OK, it would probably need a couple examples,
but would it be ambiguous or unambiguous?)

And is someone who practicies "Social Engineering" typically referred to as
an "SE hacker"?

--Todd



Message has 4 Replies:
  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
(...) Actually, that's something I considered when speaking to Matthew offline. I think my conclusion on the issue is that Matthew's approach (I.E. causing disruptions, etc) is a very fast, effective way of doing it. However, it causes unfortunate (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
(...) <OBDisclaimer: I am not a professional sociologist, nor do I make any pretensions of actual knowledge in the field.> Social Engineering can be applied to a much broader spectrum of science and psuedo-science than MM is using it for. Not all SE (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
(...) Of course it's your call, but I don't think it's really necessary to put something like that into TOS. Current TOS is already forbids many things involved with this recent "social engineering" issue as you called. It doesn't matter too much (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
(...) I think "Social Engineering" can mean many things. You can really only define it by its aim. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?)
 
(...) I must say I can't think of a place, either on or off line, where that kind of "social engineering" WOULD sit well. He must be quite used to being run out of groups on a rail... Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Park: Limited (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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