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Re: IP ( was Re: LP POINT 1
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Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:29:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In my sytem I have the right to free education.
> In my sytem I have the right to free healthcare.
> In my sytem I have the right the right to social provision.
> In my system a starving man has the right to food.
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> Is that not utopia?
Assuming those are true (that things are "free"), Dunno. Are there any
downsides or hidden costs? I of course hold there are no utopias per se.
But suppose, readdressing my question if we could, that I could give you a
system that delivered everything yours did, but didn't require the
government intrusion. Would you take it as "better" or reject it because you
preferred the intrusion?
That's the question I was getting at when I said this:
> > Remember, this is purely hypothetical, so no objections of practicality can
> > be raised (whether this system can be created is not the question at hand).
> >
> > I think if you answer "I reject" we have gotten to a fundamental (and
> > perhaps irreconcilable) difference between us, because I in turn reject the
> > notion that it's OK for the majority to impose its will on everyone. That
> > is, I personally reject an unbounded, unfettered, unrestrained democracy in
> > favor of one that is tightly constrained in terms of what force can be used
> > to accomplish and in terms of what rights can be usurped by majority vote.
Restating, more fundamentally, is it OK for a majority to impose whatever
whim it's latched onto on the populace as a whole? If not, what limits are
appropriate, and how do you reconcile that with unlimited democracy?
I don't claim to have the answer.
++Lar
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| In my sytem I have the right to free education. In my sytem I have the right to free healthcare. In my sytem I have the right the right to social provision. In my system a starving man has the right to food. Is that not utopia? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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