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Re: IP ( was Re: LP POINT 1
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:40:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> Yes, but in the UK/EU we are far less materialistic (I am sure you have
> found that). We are dull bunch, we stick our money in the bank rather than
> spend it. Whereas, in the US, the average guy/gal does not save – I’m sure I
> read US citizens, on average, have more credit than savings.
Without getting into the question of which is better, it nevertheless still
begs the question of why. WHY are you less interested in fun toys?
Is it proper for a government to arrange its affairs so that people HAVE to
be less materialistic to be happy? That is a moral judgement, isn't it?
Should governments make moral judgements about which (non violent)
lifestyles are "better"? I'd say not. Libertopia would have lots of room for
people that wanted to get back to their own 40 acres, build a cabin from
scratch, weave their own clothes and chop wood instead of tooling around in
their new mercedes. But it would be their *choice*.
> But, I am happy with what you call "government intrusion" and I'd be happy
> to pay more tax if my $$ is used well.
I don't get it, exactly.
If I can give you all the benefits of your system but with less costs, why
would you be against it? Or is it that you like the government intrusion of
saying whether the populace can own Clockwork Orange or not, to pick a
random example?
(this dodges the question of whether I can deliver said benefits or not, but
for the sake of this question, suppose I can... assuming a better system can
be created, why not pick it? That's the crux.)
++Lar
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| (...) And even if you do like it, what gives you the right to foist it off on your fellow? If you want your life out on public display, that's fine. But why force my life to follow along? Now, my stance that that government should stay the heck out (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not sure we they do. We have a different culture from you - we need less materialistic comfort. I suppose most of it harks back to our class structure. In the UK, most of my countrymen aim to rise up the class structure. Being (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Yes, but your economy may be cooling - we have been at about that for a few years now. (...) Yep... and there are those in the UK who want us to join NAFTA and leave the EU :-/ (...) Yes, but in the UK/EU we are far less materialistic (I am (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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