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Re: Is religion dead in the water?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:37:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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It is entirely dependent on approach. I’ve seen atheists who approach it as
a religion, and others that do not. Generally, the more strident and
absolutist an atheist is, the more it approaches a religion. The more
dispassionate and scientific it is, the more the religion tag fails.
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...until it becomes agnosticism, the only true non-religion. The fundamental
difference between atheists and agnostics is that atheism, like all
religions, makes firm dogmatic claims regarding the existence of a
supernatural being and the creation of the universe. Agnosticism only
declares, “Nothing has been proven, so I don’t know,” and leaves it at that.
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Actually you’re confusing terms here. Agnostics believe that the existance of
God is “inherently unknowable” whereas (most) atheists believe that God’s
existance is “unproven”. There is a relativly small faction of atheists (known
as hard atheists) that state God “does not exist” but this opinion is shunned by
most atheists since, as you stated above, this point of view is just as dogmatic
as the belief in God’s existance.
-Orion
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) I could say the same: A-gnostic: without knowledge of god(s) A-theist: without belief in god(s) (...) Those are essentially different ways of saying the same thing. Anything that can serve as proof for the one group should serve equally well (...) (20 years ago, 16-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) ...until it becomes agnosticism, the only true non-religion. The fundamental difference between atheists and agnostics is that atheism, like all religions, makes firm dogmatic claims regarding the existence of a supernatural being and the (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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