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Re: Is religion dead in the water?
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Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:58:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
   Actually you’re confusing terms here.

I could say the same:

A-gnostic: without knowledge of god(s)
A-theist: without belief in god(s)

   Agnostics believe that the existance of God is “inherently unknowable” whereas (most) atheists believe that God’s existance is “unproven”.

Those are essentially different ways of saying the same thing. Anything that can serve as proof for the one group should serve equally well as knowledge for the other, and vice versa.

   There is a relativly small faction of atheists (known as hard atheists) that state God “does not exist” but this opinion is shunned by most atheists since, as you stated above, this point of view is just as dogmatic as the belief in God’s existance.

And therefore calling themselves atheists is about as accurate as those who are searching for the god that works for them are when they call themselves agnostic.



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(...) Some quotes from Wikipedia that may be illuminating (or confusing depending on if you can keep track of it all): Some atheists distinguish between two variants: Weak atheism, or negative atheism, is the standpoint that there is no reason to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Actually you're confusing terms here. Agnostics believe that the existance of God is "inherently unknowable" whereas (most) atheists believe that God's existance is "unproven". There is a relativly small faction of atheists (known as hard (...) (20 years ago, 16-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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