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Re: Is religion dead in the water?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:21:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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It is entirely dependent on approach. I’ve seen atheists who approach it
as a religion, and others that do not. Generally, the more strident and
absolutist an atheist is, the more it approaches a religion. The more
dispassionate and scientific it is, the more the religion tag fails.
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...until it becomes agnosticism, the only true non-religion. The
fundamental difference between atheists and agnostics is that atheism, like
all religions, makes firm dogmatic claims regarding the existence of a
supernatural being and the creation of the universe. Agnosticism only
declares, “Nothing has been proven, so I don’t know,” and leaves it at that.
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Actually you’re confusing terms here. Agnostics believe that the existance
of God is “inherently unknowable” whereas (most) atheists believe that God’s
existance is “unproven”. There is a relativly small faction of atheists
(known as hard atheists) that state God “does not exist” but this opinion is
shunned by most atheists since, as you stated above, this point of view is
just as dogmatic as the belief in God’s existance.
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You summed up what I would have responded with very succinctly, Orion. I agree
with you assessment of atheists, and proper definition of agnostics.
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) Actually you're confusing terms here. Agnostics believe that the existance of God is "inherently unknowable" whereas (most) atheists believe that God's existance is "unproven". There is a relativly small faction of atheists (known as hard (...) (20 years ago, 16-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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