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Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 15 Oct 2004 04:12:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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Many people view atheism as a belief system rather than a religion. Your
points still stand, nonetheless, but I did want to point it out.
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What is a religion, if not a “belief system”? Just because atheism is not an
organized religion doesn’t mean it’s not a religion at all.
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I’ll go farther, and state that I feel that people who consistently call
atheism a religion are, in my view, exhibiting a false understanding of the
nature of religion. I suspect (without proof) that you were shortcutting
rather than that you actually hold that belief.
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You must have missed my lengthy discussion with Mr. Schuler regarding the
fundamental differences between atheism, agnosticism, and
Unitarianism/Universalism. The only areligious state is to be a true agnostic
(by the original definition, not the modern “I believe in god, but I can’t
decide which one” version), where you have not firmly decided against the
possibility of a supernatural power, but you refuse to accept any of them as
being real without concrete proof. When you’re a true atheist, you have clear
beliefs regarding supernatural powers and their role in the origin of the
universe. As I said then, there is a big difference between not believing in
any god and believing in not-god.
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) All religions are belief systems, but not all belief systems are religions. (...) Nor does it necessarily mean that it is. (...) No, I didn't miss it, I just wasn't convinced. My take then was that you were arguing by assertion. I'll take this (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | Re: Is religion dead in the water?
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| (...) It is entirely dependent on approach. I've seen atheists who approach it as a religion, and others that do not. Generally, the more strident and absolutist an atheist is, the more it approaches a religion. The more dispassionate and scientific (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
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| (...) Dictionary.com gives a serviceable definition of (URL) religion,> a definition with which I find myself in general agreement. In casual parlance I would pare it down a little further to say that religion entails the worship of and/or positive (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Many people view atheism as a belief system rather than a religion. Your points still stand, nonetheless, but I did want to point it out. I'll go farther, and state that I feel that people who consistently call atheism a religion are, in my (...) (20 years ago, 15-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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