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(...) Yes, the invasion of Kuwait is over. That business is finished. What was never finished was the removal of Saddam Hussein from his nice, cozy position of power. This is something Papa couldn't finish and something Hill Billy Clinton wouldn't (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm...last time I checked, it is US policy to remove the president from harm's way aka the White House. That doesn't sound like running to me. Perhaps when a threat to national security occurs, we should just have the president step out on the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See, John? That's how one properly invokes Dave! RE: Evil--I think, Larry, that your (and my) definition of evil is markedly different from the definition supported by our Appointed Theocrat Lil' Bush. Even Reagan's reference to The Evil (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry's stance at the time, and I'm sure it is now the same, is the obvious. President Clinton should have called them inappropriate questions and simply dismissed it as a crude joke / witch-hunt. He should have stood up for the right by (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about what I wrote. Look very closely at the region of the world we are talking about. How many countries immediately surrounding Iraq are gunning for it's immediate destruction. 0. Now, take a look at (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I've read a good deal of stuff that points out exactly why it wasn't perjury. Specifically, the Starr-crossed prosecutors were operating according to the definition of "sex" or "sexual relations" (I'm not sure which, at this point) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed! Look, the U.N. is a joke -- but at least I am willing to hear the punchline because it means people do not have to die RIGHT THIS MINUTE! And yes, of course, the U.S. has become imperialistic. Look at our feigned concern for the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, I'd buy that. The problem is, Canada isn't on the UN Security Coucil while France, Germany, and Russia are. That's what I was referring to-yet another slam at the ineffectual UN that just wasn't worded right. -Dave (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think that SH talks about the Palestinians in an attempt to obtain more support among the Arab world. Fredrik (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You weren't paying attention, JOHN: how can the U.S. use a UN resolution as a pretext for war when the UN doesn't back us on it? Yes, the UN shouldn't have passed such a resolution if they weren't prepared to back it up, but we have no legal (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't really want to argue this point overmuch, disliking almost all politicians anyway, but... Such questions should never have been put to the man in the first place. And who doesn't lie about a furtive affair? I expect better of you, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No John, you said one thing and I called you on it: "sometimes violence is the only way (because the bad guy starts it)." Okay, we started the current violence, so your statement has a certain irony to it. You'd be far better off amending your (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't drive a Hyundai, go ahead! Seoul is the one that requested we show restraint, so I don't have a problem with them eating the consequences. (...) Oh dang, I drive a Mazda. Time to switch to that BMW, I guess. Anime? They are welcome to (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How is that being called "anti-semitic" has almost become an honor? If this is code for "has no interest in supporting Israeli aggression" then I would accept such an attack readily. I remain, of course, a friend to the Jewish community all (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely not. It was a condition of surrender, Dave, that SH disarm. He has violated that treaty, therefore it is *unresolved*. (...) Who else's would it be? (...) Rez 1441 states that "serious consequences" will occur if there isn't (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. They protested peaceably. They didn't get guns, they didn't blow things up, and they made a point that was 'heard 'round the world'. You know a long time ago someone e-mailed me this quotation: "it's a lot nicer when spray paint (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you think that what the Tien An Min Square protesters were saying/doing was merely "give peace a chance", you may have misunderstood. They were FIGHTING for what they believed in, and they had pledged their lives, their fortunes and their (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The violence is a CONSEQUENCE of his FAILURE to comply. You are making my case for the impotence of the UN. If the UN isn't willing to back up their threats, they are empty and worthless. Without violence, there will be no disarming SH. That's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 2004: DPRK: Give us food, or Seoul gets it... you know we can do it, you saw that nuke that OBL set off earlier this year? That was us. And we made more. RoK: OK, I guess so, but just this one time... 2005: DPRK: Give us food AND a good stock (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Begin violence. (...) End violence. (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence.... (...) No violence... (...) Violence, started by the U.S.! Hey this is *your* sequence of events. "sometimes violence is (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a pretty good house of cards you built there. If that's the 'domino effect' that gets us to now, you cannot use "Kuwait's invasion" as the foundation building block for *this* war. The issue--the invasion of Kuwait--has been resolved. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, not exactly. When a war ends the armed hostility phase with a truce agreement, it's not over until a negotiated peace is in place. In this case, the truce agreement specified that SH would disarm and change his ways. He didn't. Violations (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. That was resolved 11 years ago. But hey, I was just trying to give you a chance to rephrase your statement before you were jumped all over for such an inviting statement, considering that Bush is initiating the violence. I see the jumping (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ploughed ground, but I'll explain 1 more time, and I'll type extra slowly in hopes you get it this time: 1. SH invades Kuwait. 2. UN forces repel SH from Kuwait. 3. SH agrees to >>>DISARM<<< 4. SH yanks weapons inspectors around for 11 years, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Easy: 1. both are victims of Bush's foreign "policy". 2. Most of the world has no respect for Bush on either issue. Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) …which Bush only mumbled about until Thatcher kicked him in the proverbial ass. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure what would be a bigger danger: a) Bush the pilot. or b) Bush the "president". ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kuwait was liberated. That war is over. This cannot be about that invasion--it's over. You're so quick to tell us to 'get over' Bush and the election--get over Kuwait--it's done. SH wasn't massing a force to re-invade. What is it you are (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you happen to hear all the speeches coming out of the White House for the last year? Maybe someone could explain to me why they referred to SH and the Iraqis multiple times. What do they have to do with anything that is going on with OBL? (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. This started 11 years ago with the invasion of Kuwait. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you happen to hear SH's little speech? Maybe someone could explain to me why he referred to the Palestinians multiple times. What do they have to do with anything that is going on in Iraq? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ummmmmmmm, you sure you want to phrase it that way? -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps if you click your heels together three times and say "There's no place like home! There's no place like home!" you will magically be whisked off to a place where the president of the United States at least tries to be Just, and not (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [if true]…and now Bush is about to cause a refugee crisis in the region. Can you think of better cover to smuggle proscribed bio-agents [say] out of the country? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But can he create a stone he can't lift? You raise some heavy theological issues, not the least of which is circular in reasoning. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed completely, Larry. When your country was smacked, I had no qualms, issues, or problems with you going after OBL. I did, and still do, have issues with your foreign policy, but that gave no right, no excuse for him doing what he did. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heck, yeah! He was *the Lord* according to the myth. If he allowed it to occur, then it's tantamount to causing it to occur. Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean *self-inflicted* crucifixion? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you for bringing that moment of *perfect* clarity, Dave! I'll walk and talk peace, thanks. Dave K (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps if you say it enough times, it will magically become true. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We already know he has them. He would show that he has destroyed them. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not even if they're crucified? Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I don't share your admiration for suicide martyrs. (...) Not when dealing with thugs. In that case, the bigger the gun the better-- it's called "results". Stand in front of as many of SH's tanks as you dare; he will roll over you every (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly. Hence the entire concept of inspections is flawed... certainly with the number of inspectors that were going to be used. Now, maybe with more inspectors and a systematic examination of every square inch of countryside, it might be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Even if true, it was working. It made for crap tv, but it was working. Bush could not take the credit, but it was working. Bush's buddies were not getting gov contracts, but it was working. Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Explain for us exactly how Saddam would prove that he doesn't have banned weapons. Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It wasn't Blix's job to *find* them! It was SH's job to simply produce proof that he had destroyed all of the illegal weapons. Blix was merely supposed to verify this. The whole affair was a charade to make the Lefties feel good about (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've been watching CNN so much lately that I haven't been watching "Canadian" news--the last I saw of JC, he was saying that "we have acheived what we want--the containment of SH--no need for the war". I also heard that we wouldn't support the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's the colour - pink ones never crash. ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [If true] It proves he was wrong; Blix would have found them. Everyone said the scenario where he'd use any WOMD was the one where he was attacked! Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What I want to know is this: Did any of the Bush clan make money out of the war Jr was too scared to fight for his country in? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It sounds like you're tempted to plagiarise again? ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Dave, we are. We have a PM who is making things up as he goes. Simply put, I think he is wrong, misguided and selfish and that the US is justified. I will let that be know come the next election, although that does not matter with our (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of which, are there any Black Hawk helicopters that HAVEN'T crashed? Lately it seems like not a day goes by that we don't hear of one crashing somewhere in the world. Perhaps we should re-examine the design of that fine vehicle. Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Then you obviously have no clue how much strength and fortitude it takes to, unarmed and undefended, stand in front of a rolling tank. Getting what one wants with a gun is mere thuggery. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I just Googled him-- I had a suspicion that he was the president from the WW.... guess not. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's rumor that Iraq fired a Scud earlier today. Just a rumor, who knows if true, but if it is, it puts paid to the notion that Iraq had already disarmed, as Scuds are banned. This does not defuse the "inspections would have disarmed (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tell that to the 20,000 who died in the Lebanon. (...) Justify that; if you can. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope. It will be flown in by black heliocopter. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well that just shows what you know about American History! [joke] Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are right, and for 2 reasons-- inspectors can be so easily thwarted, and the man is (was?) a liar! Scuds are flying everywhere-- where the hell did they come from? It's all been a big lie. The fact is that Bush was right. (...) That's a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> I'm going to say this one more time--it came across my desk--I'm not defending every jot and tittle, but it made me think. (...) Do you realize what you just wrote? Let me phrase it like this-- (...) Hypocritical. SH has committed (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate... (...) The subtext of Scott's 100% correct point [ie, that Lil' Bush shirked his duty] underscores the fallacy of the so-called "liberal media." During the 2000 campaign, many dozens of articles were written about Gore's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Johann writes: <snip> (...) <snip> Surely that same arguement cannot extend to the other countries against this war, countries, say, like, ummm, Canada? Are we misguided and selfishly looking at our own interests (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Security Council is designed so the really powerful can stop any actions against its interests, including the United States (which has used it's veto power liberally). But the UN suffers from a lack of conviction in general. If it imposes (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) Vive Le Canada!!! Oh wait, I'm Canadian--we never talk ourselves up! Sorry about that indiscretion... ;) Dave K (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I second this sentiment absolutely. Specifically, I have the feeling that at least one of the vehicles in our convoy is carrying a 600lb payload of "forbidden" chem weapons, all set to be loaded into a captured Iraqi al-Samoud missile to be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've said before that France is hardly morally clear on this matter, since they're motivated at least in large part by their past financial investment in Iraq, as well as promised contracts for future oil rights. So, to that end, you're (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes: <snip> How refreshing to have a voice not often heard in .debate actually say something intelligent, articulate and well thought out, in contrast with so many of our recent visitors. Thanks for that (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who the hell is he? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not a "fact", it is your anti-semitic opinion. (...) Who said Jews couldn't be anti-semitic? (That was rhetorical; I'm finished with this conversation). JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you implying that it is his duty to get *in* harm's way? That he can't do his duty in safety? I would submit that it is a large part of his duty to *not* get killed-- an event that would have serious national implications. All hell broke (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you think President Thomas J. Whitmore would have done? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is "anti-Semitic" about that statement of fact? Am I racist because Snipes is a bad actor? Am I sexist because Thatcher's policies lacked compassion? Am I homophobic because George Michael’s last album was a dud? Face facts: Israel is a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What about his duty? (...) youch! (...) My point is that he is "gutless"! (...) How ironic! Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give your tired, anti-semitic trolls a rest-- you have ploughed that ground enough. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Those weren't his decisions, but of the secret service. It is their job to ensure his safety-- they did what they felt prudent. You are a cretin to imply otherwise. (...) predecessor? What is your point? Merely more blathering? (...) Trolling (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It would have been even nicer if the west had not armed SH to start with! (...) So why does the USA support Sharon; is he not a psychopath with chemical weapons? (...) Why? (...) What does Bush do about Sharon using "living shields"? (...) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I seem to remember he ran around like a headless chicken? How many bases did he hide in? How long was it before he spoke to the nation? Rather than leading your country in a time of need, he chose to hide under his bed. His own words: “I was (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fine, let's all chip in and help, but first, ensure that no warlords, dictators, tyrants or the like will EVER recieve any of this funding. Prove that every penny will go towards aid and none of it will make anyone else rich and I'll back the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I give up. Why? (...) He served his country in the National Guard (he was a pilot). I fail to "get" your winkies. JOHN (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is it when you say the word "gutless", I think about how Bush Jr reacted on 911? ;) Also, how did he avoid the draft in ’68? Was it because: a) he was too drunk? b) he was too stupid? c) he was disallowed as monkeys can't fly planes? d) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before I get to my point..congrats on the CSotW. You earned it! (...) Last time I checked, peace is exactly what we're striving for. We didn't ask for attrocities to occur against any people of the world, but they occured anyway. (...) Because (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Spoken like a true Canadian. <rant> I find it interesting that even with all the disarming of our military power over the past 20 years, that there are folks calling for even more dispersal of our meager military might. Want to prevent the US (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As NPR has said over and over again, Saddam's dictatorship was achieved through America's backing (against Iran). It is then our obligation to undo this mistake. How the peaceniks lambast us for both acts is a blatant contradiction. In fact it only (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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(...) What am I to think-- that you are defending Terry's post? It was quite possibly the stupidest thing I've read in this NG-- right up there with your infamous anti-semitic rant. (...) Sorry to disappoint. I find *your* comments highly amusing-- (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Which is more falsely presumptuous: american imperialism or calling upon supposedly peace-loving countries to follow through on standing down nuclear weapons? "Idiot" is polite given the context. I guess you are all in favor of the "preemptive use (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm. Stylish, pithy -- what's not to like? Maybe we americans could do worse than excel at being "south of Canada" -- or "south of Quebec," for that matter... Beats out imperialism by a good measure. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And you have the insolence to call *me* an idiot??? JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hum... Maybe not ashamed of your country, but of its attitude in this crisis. A crisis it started. (...) Selfinsh? I dunno. I'd feel more selfish going around posting how cool this is, totally ignoring this tragedy. But I understand your (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's broken because of USA. This war proves that USA should be disarmed once and for all. Enough with USA's permanent wars. For over 50 years now USA has been the terror regime holding the world on the brink of a nuclear war. USA should be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry John, but I read the whole thread and my ruling is that you are an idiot. Believe what you want, wave your little American flag thinking you are the center of the universe, that your Prez is right, that Hussein is the Antechrist itself, that (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Terry, As much as I generally loathe wading into .debates, I feel I have to speak up and agree with you, or at least your political stance. I've been arguing all day, seemingly with the rest of my bit of America (backwater Michigan, so one can (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: And now for something completely different...
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(...) Others are thinking this way as well: (URL) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Interesting chain e-mail I received. (was Re: This just came across my desk)
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(...) You know if this really is just about oil, then every American citizen has the right and duty to put a bullet through Bush's head for flagrant misuse of military power. However I doubt that is the case (after all it would have been much easier (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So I was coming here to see if people were talking about the war and the first thing I noticed was this : I win this weeks Lego cool site of the week. *sigh* yipiii... :-( Don't get me wrong. It's an honour that I'm very happy about. I've worked (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where does this number come from? Someone else (John Derbyshire) did some digging and came up with 34% of the world's GDP, using IMF figures. That's not the same as "wealth" so what is meant by that? (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | When is intervention in the affairs of other states justified? And when isn't it?
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One Libertarian's view: Support insurgents aimed at overthrowing nonfree states... they're making their own choices to work for freedom (URL) view, not necessarily mine) Another Libertarian's view: Don't support a hyperpower throwing its own weight (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more offensive to me than openly going for an oil grab -- the fact that you believe these lies. When this is over and we have turned over all of those oil fields to the people of Iraq without western companies like Halliburton (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: An interesting find
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: And it's not>sour grapes, by the way--the actions of Jeb and Harris prior to the >2000 (...) You know what-- voting irregularities occur all of the time and all over the place. Only because Florida (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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