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Re: "gutless" bush?
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Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:06:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > 9. He is being forcibly removed by the US and coalition forces.
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> > Violence, started by the U.S.! Hey this is *your* sequence of events.
> > "sometimes violence is the only way (because the bad guy starts it)". The
> > irony of your statement is apparent to everyone but you.
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> The violence is a CONSEQUENCE of his FAILURE to comply. You are making my case
> for the impotence of the UN. If the UN isn't willing to back up their threats,
> they are empty and worthless.
No John, you said one thing and I called you on it: "sometimes violence is
the only way (because the bad guy starts it)." Okay, we started the current
violence, so your statement has a certain irony to it. You'd be far better
off amending your original statement rather than continuing to attempt to
defend it. If you want to change the subject to Saddam's failure to comply
with UN resolutions that the UN has chosen not to take to violence over,
that is another piece of irony that I'll be happy to skewer you over, too. :-)
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> Without violence, there will be no disarming SH. That's HIS choosing, not
> ours. He was given EVERY opportunity. The buck has to stop somewhere.
Without (further) violence, Saddam has been kept in check. To disarm him
completely does require further violence: the question is that in America's
interest to do so? I don't see it.
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> So either the US is a warmongering imperialist country, or the UN is a joke.
> You can't have it both ways.
Of course you can have it both ways: witness the current events!
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) Indeed! Look, the U.N. is a joke -- but at least I am willing to hear the punchline because it means people do not have to die RIGHT THIS MINUTE! And yes, of course, the U.S. has become imperialistic. Look at our feigned concern for the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The violence is a CONSEQUENCE of his FAILURE to comply. You are making my case for the impotence of the UN. If the UN isn't willing to back up their threats, they are empty and worthless. Without violence, there will be no disarming SH. That's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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