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Re: "gutless" bush?
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Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:18:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > >
> > > > > We live in a fallen world-- sometimes violence is the only way (because the
> > > > bad guy starts it)
> > > >
> > > > Ummmmmmmm, you sure you want to phrase it that way?
> > >
> > > Yes. This started 11 years ago with the invasion of Kuwait.
> > >
> > > JOHN
> >
> > Kuwait was liberated.
> >
> > That war is over.
> >
> > This cannot be about that invasion--it's over.
> >
> > You're so quick to tell us to 'get over' Bush and the election--get over
> > Kuwait--it's done. SH wasn't massing a force to re-invade. What is it you
> > are trying to prove with this? What it tells me is that you're bitter that
> > W Sr. didn't 'get the bad guy' then, and now you're out to finish the
> > job--11 years later.
> >
> > Yeah--yet another "White House" reason for this little war.
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> Ploughed ground, but I'll explain 1 more time, and I'll type extra slowly in
> hopes you get it this time:
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> 1. SH invades Kuwait.
Begin violence.
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> 2. UN forces repel SH from Kuwait.
End violence.
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> 3. SH agrees to >>>DISARM<<<
No violence....
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> 4. SH yanks weapons inspectors around for 11 years, while stockpiling illegal
> weapons, including chemical and biological in the process.
> 5. The UN passes 1441, demanding compliance or serious consequences would occur
No violence....
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> 6. The UN looses its spine, countries complicent in SH's weapons build-up block
> UN efforts, exposing the UN for the sham it is.
No violence....
> 7. Realizing that disarming will only occur with SH removed from power, the US,
> along with coalition forces, issue an ultimatum for SH to take voluntarily
> exile or they will forcibly remove him.
No violence....
> 8. He refuses.
No violence...
> 9. He is being forcibly removed by the US and coalition forces.
Violence, started by the U.S.! Hey this is *your* sequence of events.
"sometimes violence is the only way (because the bad guy starts it)". The
irony of your statement is apparent to everyone but you.
> 10. We grab all of Iraq's oil (just seeing if you were paying attention!)
Bush: oil man. Cheney: oil man. Just seeing if your were paying attention....
> 11. The fat lady sings.
No she doesn't, because the fallout from this war will last for years, if
not decades.
> 12. On to North Korea.
Why? Eventually they'll all starve to death or revolt. The ostensible
target of North Korea (South Korea) doesn't want us raising a ruckus, so why
do so?
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) 2004: DPRK: Give us food, or Seoul gets it... you know we can do it, you saw that nuke that OBL set off earlier this year? That was us. And we made more. RoK: OK, I guess so, but just this one time... 2005: DPRK: Give us food AND a good stock (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The violence is a CONSEQUENCE of his FAILURE to comply. You are making my case for the impotence of the UN. If the UN isn't willing to back up their threats, they are empty and worthless. Without violence, there will be no disarming SH. That's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ploughed ground, but I'll explain 1 more time, and I'll type extra slowly in hopes you get it this time: 1. SH invades Kuwait. 2. UN forces repel SH from Kuwait. 3. SH agrees to >>>DISARM<<< 4. SH yanks weapons inspectors around for 11 years, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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