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Gulf of understanding is mutual
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A good article from an expat Brit (now a US citizen)
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire031903.asp
My favorite quote:
'In off-topic.debate a year and a half ago, I was talking to one of my
Canadian friends about the United States Constitution. He waved away the
Constitution with a laugh. "Oh, that's all nonsense. it's just a piece of
paper. Doesn't mean anything."'
er, no, that's not right. :-) Here's the real quote:
'In China a year and a half ago, I was talking to one of my Chinese
relatives about the United States Constitution. He waved away the
Constitution with a laugh. "Oh, that's all nonsense. it's just a piece of
paper. Doesn't mean anything."'
Funny though, how many times my friend David K. has used that "just a piece
of paper" line, innit?
Scariest part is the conclusion:
"I wouldn't be too optimistic, though. If the war goes well, we shall be
more of a giant than ever; if badly, we shall be that most contemptible of
creatures, a giant brought low by hubris."
Just so you know, while Derbyshire is for it, I'm against the war that will
apparently be underway in 9.5 hours, but if it starts, I want it won, and
won quickly.
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| (...) I think my point has always been that when you put a piece of paper, or a book, say, off the top of my head--the Bible, or any other piece of literature (good or otherwise) above what's good for you or your fellow person on this planet, then (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The USA has lost this war already. Don't doubt that. See: Europe poll sees US falling from favour (URL) last year the proportion with a favourable view of the US has dropped from 75% to 48% in Britain, 76% to 34% in Italy, 50% to 14% in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The difference between Dubya-Dubya III and Desert Storm may well be that in the latter, the Iraqi soldiers knew they were in the wrong in the first place and didn't have any heart in holding Kuwait. This time it is about defending Iraq and we (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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