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Subject: 
Re: "gutless" bush?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:31:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think the Left simply cannot deal with their painfully obvious diplomatic
> > > failure and the failure of the process in general.  Sure, they could rally the
> > > masses to march for peace (who wants war?), but when it came down to actually
> > > dealing with solutions, they were a little short on answers.  "Give peace a
> > > chance" is quite an impotent response to brutal dictators.
> > 
> > Then you obviously have no clue how much strength and fortitude it takes to,
> > unarmed and undefended, stand in front of a rolling tank.
> 
> If you think that what the Tien An Min Square protesters were saying/doing
> was merely "give peace a chance", you may have misunderstood. They were
> FIGHTING for what they believed in, and they had pledged their lives, their
> fortunes and their sacred honor to the task.
> 
> Too bad the rest of the world hasn't honored their sacrifice but instead
> does business with their oppressors.

Agreed.

They protested peaceably.  They didn't get guns, they didn't blow things up,
and they made a point that was 'heard 'round the world'.

You know a long time ago someone e-mailed me this quotation:

"it's a lot nicer when spray paint vandals don't trash the
subway, but standing around and saying "it's a lot nicer when vandals don't
trash the subway" doesn't actually stop them from doing it."

Which is pretty much true, but when I stand around and say that "it's a lot
nicer when vandals don't trash the subway", I carry a paint brush and paint
can--I'm willing to do what it takes.  Sure the thugs can vandalize again,
but I can paint again as well. (1)

It would be great if the painting wasn't done in the first place, and I'll
work on that as well--but if the situation *has* happened, what's the best
remedy?  Fix it, not blow it up.

Dave K

toot my own horn time--there was this underpass that was just riddled with
every sort of obscenity spray-painted on the concrete--the bridge was built
for 'future expansion', but wasn't actually used as such for may many years,
so the 'artists' had a lot of time to paint what they wanted.  Well, there
was an access ramp that I used to get to university, so I saw this graffitti
every weekday.  One Saturday, armed with paint can, I went and started my
own artwork--covering up theirs.  People driving by stopped and thanked me
for doing so--even a Constable On Patrol pulled up and he and I had a
pleasant conversation with him about graffitti and such related vandalism.



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(...) If you think that what the Tien An Min Square protesters were saying/doing was merely "give peace a chance", you may have misunderstood. They were FIGHTING for what they believed in, and they had pledged their lives, their fortunes and their (...) (24 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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