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Re: [DISC] Shortcircuit eBay?
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Date: 
Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:45:15 GMT
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R2 wrote:

What latitude exactly does the seller have to award the winning set to
anyone he chooses? As long as eBay gets paid, do they care?

I do!!! If you say something goes off sale and remove it before I get a
chance to bid (or snipe), you will get negative feedback.

Go ahead. And realise that your feedback will be responded to, pointing
out that the auction was run in compliance with the rules as they were
stated in the auction listing. So it won't count for much, I don't
think.

If we devise a way to prevent sniping that is within eBay rules (not
sure we can, but suppose we do) and you, a sniper, don't like it, tough.

If the BUYERS took responsibility, and gave
it just a LITTLE thought, they could set their maximum bid to what they will
pay: The highest amount they will let the set go to someone else for.

I am so very very very tired of this thoroughly hashed and discredited
line of reasoning.

Read all 1400 messages on this board and you will come away with a
strong sense of why this argument does not always hold, and further, why
it's not in the seller's best interests either.

No one argues that eBay is within their rights to organise the rules as
they see fit, and no one argues that sellers and buyers are free to use
it or not. What we have here, though, is a breakthrough. Rather than
merely agreeing among ourselves that eBay is flawed, and asking eBay to
change, we are trying to determine if a system can be devised to work
around the flaws and still comply with eBay rules and policy.

Isn't that what sniper software does? It lets snipers take advantage of
eBay rules to win lots for less than they would if they had bid sooner.
Well, (some of) the sellers don't like that and want to encourage
bidders to bid earlier and increase the amount sellers get.

Instead of complaining about e-bay, do not use it. Post to here, or RTL.

We want the exposure without the shortcomings.  RTL isn't there and
never will be. SeriousCollector isn't there, yet. Maybe someday, though.

--
Larry Pieniazek    http://my.voyager.net/lar
FDIC Know your Customer is wounded, thanks to you, but not dead...
See http://www.defendyourprivacy.com for details
For me: No voyager e-mail please. All snail-mail to Ada, please.
- Posting Binaries to RTL causes flamage... Don't do it, please.
- Stick to the facts when posting about others, please.
- This is a family newsgroup, thanks.



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(...) But who takes the time to read those responses? Mostly folks just check the number and if it's low maybe they go look at it. If you did this enough, and you received enough negative feedback, it could hose your rating which might end up being (...) (26 years ago, 27-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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(...) I do!!! If you say something goes off sale and remove it before I get a chance to bid (or snipe), you will get negative feedback. I think most any buyer on e-bay will agree. Sometimes I see when an item goes off, and then try to log on when I (...) (26 years ago, 27-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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