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Re: Question: Does the market realy want junorization?
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Thu, 6 Dec 2001 02:35:38 GMT
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> In lugnet.general, Stuart Immonen writes:
> > In lugnet.general, John Neal writes:
> > > In lugnet.general, Jonathan Wilson writes:
> > > Lego keeps saying that junorization is what todays video-game kids want
> > > but is it really true?
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> <snip>
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> > I've got to give TLC credit where it is due, because juniorization is working
> > very well. Look at the success of Bionicle-- that is a *totally* juniorized
> > line IMO. For a builder such as I, Bionicle is a nightmare because virtually
> > every piece in the line is unusable.
The success of Bionicle is not the success of LEGO. It is the success of a
line that is closer to action figures than building bricks. It's a sad day,
not one to celebrate.
> I agree with this entirely, and my own son, who shares with me tens of
> thousands of regular (ie stackable, if not rectilinear) bricks, _loves_
> Bionicles, and has asked for nothing else (lego-wise) for Christmas.
Do I read you correctly? You're saying he's asked for nothing but Bionicles
for Christmas? Or nothing but LEGO products? If it's the former, then my
point above is reinforced.
> He has a separate container for minifigs and their acessories, and prefers
> to play with them alone on the barest of play surfaces, or once-made and
> never-broken-down sets. He likes to _collect_ special pieces, such as
> crystals, animals, weapons, cameras and so on. The HP sets are _wonderful_
> for this purpose, and I prefer to get him these over Bionicles.
As any good parent would. ;)
> But it's successful, and, generally
> > speaking, what's good for TLC is good for us.
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> Well, as long as TLC continue to offer traditional bricks in a variety of
> colours, or sets which use these.
But they aren't. And that's what folks like me are railing against. They
have produced Bionicles and Harry Potter and Jack Stone etc. etc. at the
exclusion (or so it would seem) of traditional brick-based sets. As well,
try to find a simple bucket of bricks on the toy shelves of my local Zellers
store... it can't be done, and it's less than 4 weeks to Christmas.
> I think there is a market, say age 14 and up, who would want highly detailed
> sets like the SW x-wing, tie interceptor, and blockade runner, or the
> technic supercars for instance. When I hit that age, the first of the
> technic cars were coming out, and, even though I didn't get any (darn you,
> my parents), it lkept my interest in the toy high.
It kept your interest high and sustained apparently, as you're now posting
to a LEGO-related website? What about your son when he grows up? Will he
be posting to LUGNET or BIONICLENET?
> > It's not a question of what a broad sampling wants. Do you *want* Primo or
> > Duplo? *Personally* I don't, but should I be calling for its demise? Of course
> > not, because it has a niche (of which I happen to not be a part).
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> I agree here, too. I believe getting kids interested in the building process
> early makes them life-long builders. My son builds MOCs tentatively, but I
> don't think he'll ever _stop_ at this point.
Primo and Duplo are entirely separate lines from LEGO that kids 5 - 7 and up
can realistically use. They are necessary and I can't imagine someone
arguing their demise. But lines like Jack Stone that speak down to kids
with the shallowness of their design... these lines must be replaced with
more realistic and more brick-based sets. The sooner, the better.
Regards,
Allan B.
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| (...) Pardon me, but TLC offers something *better* than buckets-- bulk packs! I know folk like to rail on about the slowness of this service being expanded, but step back a moment. Three years ago we all would have killed for the possibility of such (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-01, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) hmm. I don't think anyone is actually celebrating this, although ther does seem to be a faction that supports savvy market decisions as long as there is a percieved benefit to them personally. ie: bulk packs, advanced model sets alongside (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-01, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) <snip> (...) I agree with this entirely, and my own son, who shares with me tens of thousands of regular (ie stackable, if not rectilinear) bricks, _loves_ Bionicles, and has asked for nothing else (lego-wise) for Christmas. He has a separate (...) (23 years ago, 5-Dec-01, to lugnet.general)
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