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(...) Well of course God existed first, that truth is tattooed on our arms at birth. That is after all how we know absolutely for certain. (...) If that were true why don't we all look alike? (...) If God is really a God why is it that he can only (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh yeah, sure, that works too, we can allow that. (...) So then it's true the handicapped (those missing various extremities anyway) go to hell. And here I thought South Park was just being humorous. (...) Does this mean we have to start (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um...surely you realize the futility in arguing this? I mean people NEED to believe what they believe, that is why they believe it. If we ever do encounter an alien race, I hope they're advanced enough to comprehend that simple concept, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's okay, most people have trouble understanding me correctly, call it a curse if you will. (...) Why is someone forcing you to believe something? I find that hard to believe. : ) People believe what they need to believe, but at the root of (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Generally speaking one shouldn't try to generalize a topic into a general category, and in general terms any four star general would generally know the general posting netiquite...or perhaps not. : ) (...) Oh goody, goody, can we debate (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Weren't the Overseer's something from that book...um...Childhood's End I believe. In which case they would have overly large bodies, small wings, and horns. All in all I guess they'd have devilishly good looks. ^*_*^ Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I knew Latin I would sure have a lot of time on my hands... (...) So do you know this for a fact because you are a God, or are you in direct contact with some higher source of power? (...) Then why presume to make assumptions about what it (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not to get off topic...oh wait we already are, never mind. Does the world actually turn around in a straight circle? I mean I know it sorta wobbles and what not and that's how we get the seasons, but is it how the earth is rotating that is (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And here I thought those things on yer head were for the convenience of always having a place to hang up your coat. Boy do I feel silly! : ) Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You too! And here I though I was alone in the world. : ) (...) And why did you presume that they were correct beyond a shadow of a doubt in their thinking? I once read a study by numerous "experts" who said that it takes your stomach ten (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey whatever blows yer hair back. Interpretation is really the mother of all invention, not necessity. (...) I find South Park's ability to make certain people get upset over trivial things to be quite humorous indeed. (...) Oh gee, what was I (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But when it wobbles would the axis change? I guess the easiest way to test the theory would be to draw a bright red line along the equator of a globe and give the ol girl a good spin and then see if the line stays the same or blurs whilst it's (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well that's not what what's his name said, why is he wrong and why is it that you're right? Did he and I just miss some meeting or something? BTW this is your cue to say something about how the meeting was church and the head speaker was God, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Snipping out your previous texts no doubt helps you to try and pass that off. If I was actually inclined to attack you I suppose I might delve into that further, but I won't. (...) Oh so we can only debate about one thing at a time? Hmmm, it (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough, but if you're going to accuse me of criticizing a view without knowing what that view is, you would be well-advised to make absolutely certain that I don't, otherwise you're just making another assumption (as if that comes as any (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dare I actually post links to philosophy throughout the ages? Hmmm....perhaps some other time. Although if you'd like some insight you need go no farther than some of the lesser developed countries. Simply ask them if they think the world is (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps, but is the thickness of his skin really something I should have to worry about in my day to day life? Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm...sorry about that, I snipped it earlier and assumed it stayed snipped. I'll try to keep an eye on it and snip it when I reply if I see it. Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, that we have established, the "wobble" causes the seasons, not the other way 'round (pardon the pun), otherwise we'd have like an instance of Post Hoc, Ergo, Propter Hoc....oooOOO....now that'd make for an interesting debate. He, he, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Something like that happened to one of my posts. I followed up to one of Jennifer's posts but then it posted it as if the post I followed up with was the one Jennifer's replied to. A sure fire instance of Post Hoc, Ergo, Propter Hoc. Get the (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh yeah, I think we got it, the threads are so big though that a couple offshoots got missed. Just chill d00d, I'm sure general isn't being completely overwhelmed in posts, it'll all clear up in a day or so. Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah but then you'd have to have one for everyone's unique interpretation and then it'd just get confusing and messy. (...) Hmmm....no I don't think I'm Catholic today...maybe tomorrow I will be though, we'll see. (...) LOL, now that's funny. (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He, he, he, relax Aaron, I was just tryin to be funny. (...) Creativity is a godlike ability? Wow, so like I'm already one step to godliness, woo hoo! (...) You didn't need to. You said brain capacity, as in the capacity of the brain, therefor (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did, I still don't see your point. I wasn't being sarcastic at that point you know... (...) But I like his colorful interpretation of the bible, it provided me with much humor this morning. (...) I love it when people think the ablity to (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe we should classify her as a godess then...unless I missed a meeting on political correctness...and chances are I have. : ) Robert (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me?! Lie?! No, never. : ) (...) I wasn't, it was "insightfully" humorous. (...) Or so you think I think. (...) Having a load of bull is sure a lot better than being someone standing in it. (...) But you don't have to have a point to have a (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If being unafraid of speaking my mind and being really open is your idea of rude, yeah, I guess I am. (...) Oh now I am certainly not doing that. If you're going to start hurling accusations just because yer ego got a little bruised I sure (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lego/Legos creates brand dilution too, particularly in the usage "I bought these MegaBlok legos because they were cheaper, and fit with other legos." Think about God/gods. You talk about God, you're talking about the One Almighty. You talk (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tx, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Actually, gods exsisted long before your "God" who, when you think about it, stole the term. I personally don't think lego has anything to worry about. I mean, Megabloks? I wouldn't be all that scared if was them. (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tx, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Does God have a name for God? follow up in off-topic.debate if you dare... My example (perhaps a bad one) aimed to show how a proper noun in the singular describes something quite differently from a common noun in the plural, or used (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.tx, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) Who knows?? But God (if it exists) probably has another "entity" that it looks up to, and chances are it's not called "God". Of course, this assumes that "looks" and "up" actually have some kind of meaning in God's environment... ROSCO (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I gather that in most modern monotheistic type religions, it all ends up at God, and that is that. No infinite regressions - God is IT, the be all and end all, the omnipotent, the Grand Overseer, He Who Knows all, etc. etc. Often the existence (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa. I thought Ginger was IT. Well, that explains all the hype of the last few months. Steve (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had forgotten entirely about IT - the only thing I know about this is what I read on the How Stuff Works web site. It reminds me of the hype surrounding a couple of vapourware computer games on the old ZX Spectrum back in the mid eighties (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First of all, I don't know if I am supposed to take this discussion only to off-topic.debate or also have it cross-posted to general. If someone knows better, let me know. God existed first, before anything else. He created all things, (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Regardless, I see your site refers to "Virtual Legos," so you've apparently got a vested interest in both parts of this thread! 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Beware the JubJub bird, and shun the frumious Bandersnatch... Though in this case, like the Snark, the Bandersnatch turned out to be a Boojum. There's a Carrollian logic buried in there somewhere. :-) Bruce (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "There is no god but Allah." Same God, by the way. Anyway, the question is whether God has a name for God, not whether we have a name for God. I suppose if God invented Aramaic or Arabic, that could be debated (scratching head and pondering (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) looks (...) God, (...) But thats *human* religions!! What if God has It's own religion? What does It call Its Grand Overseer?? ROSCO (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As soon as the discussion loses its LEGO nature, go to off-topic I think. (...) Or at least the three main narrative threads in the Pentateuch have three different names for God, that reflect different understandings of God. Does rendering the (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm only going in on this one part here. It is my belief that man in God's image is not exactly literal, but of broader meaning Biblically. Image can mean form (arms, legs, head, torso) or function. My opinion of God is that He (not gender, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sounds like an offtopic.debate thing to me... (...) Heh, interesting website because all 'truths' are quoted from a man-made book and blindy claims that the book tells the truth. I have never learned to take the texts written in the Bible this (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know if I understand you correctly: Do you mean that people need to force up their beliefs to other people otherwise their belief have no meaning? -Frank (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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To All, While this maybe a fascinating debate, please keep it out of lugnet.general. I don't know why it is here in the first place. FUT->off.topic.debate Sincerely, Scott S. -- Personal Page: (URL) Index Page: (URL) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I knew the Latin for "who guards the guards?", I could sound really pretentious here, but unfortunately I don't, therefore I shall have to sound pretentious without the benefit of a dead language. However, the point is already made; God (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps we are it? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And the world turns round again... (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have at least one of those three thing. I'm not saying which. ;-) Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course I am. The little green men communicate with me via my fillings and tell me so. They send me detailed plans for my Technic models. (...) Because this is what people who do believe and study those religions have told me - I am (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd much rather ponder what a "straight circle" is. A gyroscope undergoes precession, in that its axis of rotation "wobbles," but the rotation itself, relative to that axis, is pretty fixed, I think. Dave! (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you have any idea how hilarious this statement is? God created us in his image, so we created other gods in our image? Perhaps it was really the other way around. :) Anyway, be careful how far you go next time you're on a ship. You might (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More specifically, I have understood it to mean that man has the capacity for Grace, and in this way we are created in His image. (...) Well, if you thought South Park was humorous, then you have issues that won't be resolved in this forum. (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.general, Dave Schuler writes: I apologize for inadvertantly posting the debate in the .general group. I thought the debate had already been moved to OT.debate. Sorry about that. Dave! (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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I have replied to some of Robert's questions. The message can be found in off-topic.debate, as per some requests. --Ryan (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) in God's image] (...) image." (...) the situation." We don't all look alike because God did not create us to look like Him, because He has no body; He is not a *physical* being, but a *spiritual* being. John 4:24 says, "God is spirit, and (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When was this mythical period, precisely? Do you have a citation to share with us? (...) See the earlier million-post debate for why your statement is flatly incorrect, or at least grossly inaccurate. (...) Or a Postmodernist, if you really (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Gentlemen, (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Folks, Is there some compelling reason that this is still in general, after repeated plea's? This is just plain rude, and I do not want to see it. I would go to debate to see it. Please stop. FUT->off.topic.debate Scott S. -- (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did not presume any such thing - the current debate concerns whether or not there is a God for God. Now, I could always have come along and said "Pah! Since God cannot be proven to exist, then this entire argument is pointless." However, It (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough, but if you're going to criticize a view, you would be well-advised to learn what that view is. (...) You're committing a basic falacy of reason, in that you are assuming that, since some of their views were incorrect, *all* were (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. I guess it depends on how rigid the spinning object is, and what you're using as a standard of comparison. If there's no actual axis, but a "net" axis, the rotation might change. Intesting. Dave! (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) The "wobble" is not the cause of the seasons, rather it is the angle of the rotational axis relative to the sun during the period the earth revolves about the sun. Bruce (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Funny, 'cos in our environment the word 'probably' has a meaning - that there is sufficient evidence for an event to be more likely to occur than to not occur. Exactly what are you basing the use of this word on in the above context? As for (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Robert, in written language, sarcasm can be misinterpreted as personal angry attacks. That's why Dave said what he did about castigating Aaron. --Ryan (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott do it like this... Jude (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would. It's easier in the long run. :) (...) Stirring. We like stirring. (...) Personally, I think it shows a lack of imagination (not faith) to assume that everything has to be made by something or someone else. (...) Wow. If I could view (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow! Freaky. I submitted a follow-up to Jennifer's message (evidenced by the indented history), but Lugnet's taken it as a follow-up to Robert's message prior to that. Now I'm confused. Was that intervention divine? Or just fabulous? Can we move (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) GUYS! To re-iterate (albiet more rudely) what at least a couple people have said: Get this crap out of lugnet.general! James (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, that isn't a bad idea! :-) (I mean, that there should be such a "Dummies" book) (...) If you are Catholic. (...) Divinely inspired by God. When quoting the Bible in term papers (biblical scenes being popular in many periods of art), (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ILLUSTRATION. It could also mean lots of other things. (...) If people are refering to God or a godlike ability, they usually place it in caps, please don't get bent. (...) I did not use the term physical, did I. Brain capacity was intended to (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read your comments previous to mine above. (...) Same again. If you feel you have to sneer at his website, don't bother with it. Just advice. Feel free to ignore it. (...) I think, therefore I am. Not applicable to all, I'm afraid. Or, as I (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oops! Now I'm an ass!! Higher powers that be, forgive me for posting in .general! I'll be moving along now. Bye. AFW (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) ya go... Bruce (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Robert, have you spent any time looking at Jennifer's TECHNIC creations? She's obviously a god. Steve (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Liar, liar, pants on fire... (...) Wait, you just said you weren't being sarcastic at that point. At least keep your story straight. (...) Or so you think. (...) Okay, plausible but specious form of argumentation (or, more bluntly, a load of (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> It is my considered opinion that he's stating that you are rude to people, deliberatly picking fights. You call it humor, but it is only funny if the other folk find it funny too. This may not be your fault, it's just one of those things (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) call god as "god" but "allah" or "tanri" mostly..:-) Anyway, everybody has a right to chose his/her own spare time activity, in addition to building/playing with lego...:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But then the question could be, who is this "I" that can think? :) (not intended as any insult to you, Robert) --Ryan (24 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Robert: (...) In this Robert is referring to me. (...) No, I'm not. I said in my post just before you said this that I ALSO AM A SINNER. I AM INHERENTLY EVIL. Only God is perfect and sinless. --Ryan (24 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Selçuk Göre wrote in message <3AC5BF84.F784AF2A@s...ne.com>... <stuff about god> PLEASE trim lugnet.general from your newsgroups before replying! (sheesh, how many times?) Kevin ---...--- ------ Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) On a some what interesting side note, I'd just like to know, who exactly asked Jesus to die for our sins? I mean hypothetically speaking let's say your religion is correct, Jesus died for our sins, etc, etc. I personally, feel that's wrong. I (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) -_o Well not the left "I", somebody poked it. He...he...he... : ) Robert (24 years ago, 1-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed - for example, a colleaugue of mine from Egypt once had a taxi driver rant at him for the duration of his journey about how the Pyramids must have been made by aliens since they were such advanced structures for their time etc. (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you'd like to think pal, but you'd be wrong :-) The reason I snip a great deal of previous text from these messages is that they become incredibly tiresome to wade through (more so than usual), with one ending up reading one new line per (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, no one asked Jesus to die for us. As you said, Robert, we each deserve to die for our own sins. God could have let us all die and not sent His Son. But God is a *loving* God, and he wanted us to be able to live with Him forever in (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just a nit to pick: wouldn't being a sinner imply that you have some capacity for good? IOW, unless EVERY act and thought you commit is a sin, then you have some amount of good, right? How could something inherently evil have good in it? (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If we're splitting hairs, couldn't something inherently (ie: predisposed to) evil still make the moral choice not to commit evil? Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm. Good point. Which raises the question: is a thing evil by nature or by action? If someone were evil by actions, then I could see the possibility of good. If someone were evil by nature, then that person has a heckuva lot of work to do to (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Another thing here is competency. I mean take Hitler for example, was he evil? Maybe, maybe not. I would call Hitler evil he mercilessly had 6 million Jewish people slaughtered not because he actually thought they were the bane of the arian (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, I hate to point out your hypocristy...but on the one hand you say it's easy to go back through the previous messages in the thread, and yet you add spaces to the subject line which as you know breaks the thread apart. Not only that but (...) (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh goody. This debate is over. Next debate please... (24 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In just a few days in lugnet.off-topic.debate, Robert Bevens: (...) Makes unwarranted assumptions about other posters' experience. (...) Is a smart-aleck about it. Also: Ignores substantive point on how annoying tit-for-tat arguments are. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] (...) [snip] (...) [snip] (...) Hmmmm. Robert, you're really starting to sound like someone else who came around here temporarily a while back - what was his name? Matthew Boulton? I'd almost forgotten..... ROSCO (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) At this point a general warning should be given that in the near future Robert will likely announce that he has been playing a game with us to see how we'd react. I, for one, feel greatly privileged to have been a part of this bold and (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I am flattered by your attribution of devious directed obfuscation, unfortunately I must confess to not being as clever as all that in this matter - I've not knowingly changed the subject line in any of the messages I've replied to. That (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) make the moral choice not to commit evil? (...) us going to successfully fight our nature and become good?...what would be the point of creating a people who are inherently evil?" Here's what I believe, in light of the Bible. God did not (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm again. So, if he's actually _trying_ to come across as a complete failure, and in that, he's a resounding success, which is he? Jason (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's...interesting. If I were busted for aggrivated attempted shoplifting and reckless driving, would my children be responsible for my actions? Would my great-great-grandchildren, then, have the task for paying my debt to society? Or is (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The question of whether man is inherently good or evil is a loaded question becuase the concept of good and evil is purely subjective. For instance, one culture may view cannibalism as evil, but for the cannibals it's just part of their cultural (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, not really. (...) You make it sound as if I've gone to some great length to hide my identity. A couple weeks ago I posted some links to pictures of some of my models, two new, and one old. So anyone following my work would obviously know (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, excuse your stupidity, but after doing it just once, one should be able to tell it breaks the thread apart...unless they're just blind or stupid, and I sure as heck wouldn't ever call Jennifer stupid. I mean if you're having such a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's probably using the reference header to sort them instead of the subject. Just out of curiosity, what news reader are you using? Seems odd that it should randomly put spaces into the subject line. o_O (...) Gee, PKB lames, have ye reached (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just try & cool it Robert. It may sound like that to you, but yours is only one opinion. (...) No, some may have followed your links - that doesn't imply they know who you are. ROSCO (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No matter what the result is, there will always be someone eager to: Misinterpret it. Fake it. Believe it happened according to his own pet theory. Robert (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm tryin to keep things as cool as possible, if any serious debate starts over it I'm not going to get involved, there's no need. To me this group is just a fun place to yammer back and forth over stuff that probably isn't taken too (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I'm not interested in getting into your other debate, but I disagree with your opinion on this point. I think that is *exactly* the *difference* between courtesy & respect - one is given freely, the other is earned. ROSCO (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. Being at least somewhat courteous is an implicit requirement in the ToS here. Even to darn fools that you do not respect. ++Lar (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm....I should probably clarify, my bad. I believe there is a certain amount of courtesy which should be practiced and given out for free, such as holding doors open for the person behind you, not parking directly in front of a guy whose (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When Adam sinned, He incurred the punishment for sin: "in the day that you eat from it [the forbidden tree] you shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17). Adam did not drop dead then, but the biological tendency to die started working and nine hundred (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't you agree, however, that's a broad assumption based on an even more broad definition of sin? Keep in mind that sin is relative to a culture, not a hard and fast rule to all cultures and creatures. Eating pork is a sin for Hebrews and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Daniel: In the spirit of avoiding sweeping generalizations that due a disservice to one's arguments, I believe that your statements above need clarification. I'll not excuse the atrocities committed in the name of religion, but a great deal (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Were I in the debate, that'd be exactly my point :) 'Course then we'd be on to defining morality which is my little pet topic, so I'd better steer clear :) (...) By my book, not *necessarily*, though I would argue that it probably was indeed (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simple question: Was the Vatican a political and economic power during the conquest of the Americas? You know the answer. (...) You are inferring more than what I wrote. The fact remains that Christianity came down like an iron fist on the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is a good point; in terms of colonization, the Spanish had a more overtly religious tone to the economic exploitation. An interesting irony is that while the Spanish often used divine right as a justification, they also, over the course (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Regarding this subject of cruelty of so-called Christians to the indians, here's an interesting article about the Pilgrims in America. (URL) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Plymouth MA, which is the church congregation directly descending from the Pilgrim's settlement, is now a Unitarian Universalist congregation. This also reminds me of an interesting story I read in the Travel section of the Raleigh (NC) News (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is this the black armband view of history or what! I think it's telling that the present govenrment refuses to apologise for a policy that was so explicitly racist. Apparently Aboriginal settlements were the inspiration for South African (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.au)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Simpson writes: (big clipping) (...) Would you mind telling me why you consider Portugal was "the worst of the bunch"?? In fact, it DID start slave trade in the Atlantic; but it also began ANY sort of trade routes (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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