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Re: A BricksWest Critique?
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Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:57:21 GMT
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I think the feelings that most of those that went to BricksWest 2003 have
about the Luau and the Hawaiian Shirts were that these were the two big
selling points to buy the full package as compared to individual day passes
to BricksWest '03. When we were hit with the news that the Hawaiian Shirts
(a $20 to $25 value probably) were being replaced with a T-Shirt (probably
in the $10 to $12 range when ordered in volume), most of us I'm sure sighed
something like, "well, that's OK, it's better than nuthin!"
Then when the news hit about the Luau dinner being gone, and it was being
replaced with a meal voucher at one of the restaurants at Legoland, some of
us I'm sure were now thinking...well, I'm not sure that I can write what
some of us were thinking or mumbling under our breadth,...but I'm sure it
wasn't a lot of "golly, that sounds like a good alternative."
While I'm thankful we got something, I'm not sure many of us felt we got the
same value for our buck that we were told we would get when we excitedly
read the news about the upcoming Innagural BricksWest event at LEGOLAND
California.
With all the comments I've read about the cost of the hotel, airplane
tickets for the out of towners to get here, etc., I'm sure lots of folks
would rather have been given the option to receive refunds on the "value" of
these two items that were part of the BricksWest Package and have used that
to purchase a Lego set or two in the "Big Store" near the main entrance in
Legoland.
Ray
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In lugnet.events.brickswest, Todd Thuma writes:
> WOW Nelly! Before this gets off on a "flame", I want everyone to be clear about
> the intentions of this thread. First, I want people to post their observations
> and critiques about the event for those that attended. Seth did attend on
> Sunday (clearly stated) and his observations are that promises were made that
> never materialized. His other observation that the decisions should be made by
> more than one individual and made public are in line with mine.
>
> Matthew did a great job! I take nothing away from Matthew, but because he was
> an organizing committee of one, he sholdered much of the decision making, the
> responsibility and therefore the fortunate or unfortunate blame when things do
> not go as planned. Becuase Matthew made a lot of the decisions himself or took
> the responsibility for much of the planning, things fell threw the cracks. If
> Matthew had deligated more of the responsibility then their would have been
> more eyes and ears on the events and planning and less would have been up to
> Matthew.
>
> Believe me when I say, one person can only accomplish so much in their personal
> time and I was blown away by how much Matthew accomplished. But blaming
> everyone else for the stuff that didn't happen is not correct either. Having
> someone look after Legoland and their people would have, or should have,
> entailed weekly and daily telephone calls. This is the job of one person with
> one task not one person with 15 tasks (which Matthew had). Is it his fault that
> we didn't have a Luau, not entirely his fault, but something got dropped by
> both sides. And yes, Brad Justus bailed out Legoland by working a deal for meal
> vouchers which I am certain (based on the size of the meals everyone was
> eating, the ones I say, including my own) LEGO more than compensated us. By the
> way, the knowledge of Brad's SuperHuman rescue like efforts on our behalf, was
> not made know to the whole group and I am certain Seth was unaware of this.
>
> Matthewn took the blame for a lot becuase the how and why things didn't happen
> were neither apparent nor communicated to the masses. Matthew made him self the
> point man for blame when he took on the responsibility for most of everything.
> Had some of that stuff been deligated he could have told complainers and
> whiners to go see the person in charge of the event. As it was Matthew was in
> charge of everything and therefore had to deal with all of that personally.
> After a while a person goes into a defensive self preservation mode and just
> succombs to it. I don't know what Matthew said to everyone about the many
> different "problems" becuase he either didn't include me in the decision making
> process or dealt with it privately.
>
> Mathew placed himself on the hook too, ecomonically. He paid for things out of
> his personal bank accounts, credit cards, and cash. There are no receipts and
> no means of accounting for what was spent and what contracts were signed,
> because Matthew did all of this. This also left him open to financial ruin.
> That's why I call for a larger group and a means of isolating the organizers
> from greedy companies looking to nickel and dime this growing "community" for
> space that is rented and services that are rendered. A small non-profit
> organization can remedy the legal and contractual issues that needs to be dealt
> with and can prevent great people like Matthew from being ruined from some
> disgruntled company or person who thought they were treated wrongly.
>
> Although I myself was an "organizer" of BricksWest, I had very little input
> into the decisions that were made. While I would have objected to very few, I
> just want it clear that I felt Matthew made most of them on his own, which I
> was admittedly fine about.
>
> The point of this exercise is to learn more about what the "community" wants to
> see in a gathering of individuals. Do we want it to be about learning, sharing,
> or just hanging out and enjoying the park.
>
> Please, resist the temptation to be defensive, even on other people's behalf,
> in the effort to bring out what went wrong and what can be improved. I wouldn't
> mind the "defensive positioning" if I felt the organization was more open to
> the community and not sholdered by a few individuals.
>
> I seek only to repeat the great work Matthew started and build upon his early
> susccess. Putting negative opinions or feedback down will not teach us what we
> did wrong, only reinforce the same ways to screw up.
>
> Sincerely and respectfully,
>
> Todd
>
> P.S. And Matthew, if you are reading this, make certain your take home message
> from all of this is my deep personal concern and respect for you and your
> family and wanting to contiue this thing you started without sending you and
> your family to the nut house or the poor house.
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| WOW Nelly! Before this gets off on a "flame", I want everyone to be clear about the intentions of this thread. First, I want people to post their observations and critiques about the event for those that attended. Seth did attend on Sunday (clearly (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jul-02, to lugnet.events.brickswest)
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