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Mike Stanley wrote:
> Robert M. Dye <robdye@writeme.com> wrote:
> > I said what I said, and I stand by it. The fellow (I have not gone back to
> > look up who it was) who took the tack of "Oh, yeah!?! PROVE it!" came across
> > to me as a moron. I do not say that he is one (although I admit that this is
> > a very small distinction), but that IS how he struck me. Will you fault me
> > for the impression I receieve of someone? That seems an odd position to
> > take.
> >
> > I am not sure, but it sort of looks as though Mike Stanley attributed the
> > "he struck me as a moron" comment to Todd. That was NOT Todd speaking, it
> > was me.
>
> I know it was you, and I certainly didn't try to imply it was Todd
> saying that, although Todd said some thing that got me riled
> yesterday.
>
> And yes, there is _little_ distinction between calling someone a
> moron and saying they strike you as a moron. If I said you struck
> me as a jackass would that offend you less than if I called you a
> jackass? Phrases like "came across as" "strikes me as" "seems like"
> etc are all phrases that people employ to, on the surface at least,
> remove themselves from the active nature of what they're saying.
>
> And no, I wouldn't fault you for your impressions. I'd fault you
> for your lack of tact in describing another very important member of
> our community whose feelings as a _human being_ ought to matter to
> you a helluva lot more than how much a corporation "feels" we
> respect it.
No skin off my nose - I know my IQ, and it's well over to the higher end of the
scale (and I mean WELL over) ;-) (IQ != common sense, however)
I stand by my "PROVE IT" comments.
I wanted proof from TLC, and I got it, end of story - until we actually heard
from TLC, then people stating that TLC meant X were more in error than me stating
that "maybe they didn't mean X, give me proof they did" ;-) In fact, I'd
consider my stance more intelligent - I was asking for proof, rather than
assuming I KNEW what TLC wanted.
I still don't agree with their stance on URLs on their site, however.
>
> Just like I'd say how we treat Brad out to be respectful even if we
> admit we have quite a bit less respect for the company he works for.
Oh yes, definitely - ALWAYS make sure to treat someone with respect, and
disconnect the person from the company (I guess I need to practice what I
preach). I definitely respect Brad, and generally respect TLC, but I feel there
is no need to ignore when TLC as a whole is being boneheaded about something ;-)
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| Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp
| Please do not associate my personal views with my employer
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| (...) I know it was you, and I certainly didn't try to imply it was Todd saying that, although Todd said some thing that got me riled yesterday. And yes, there is _little_ distinction between calling someone a moron and saying they strike you as a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.admin.general)
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