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Just a short note to let everyone know that our first show was a success. A few minor glitches but overall everything went pretty well, or at least it was going well when I had to leave for the airport. We went through most of 600 handouts, each of (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains) !
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Glad to hear it was a success! Wish I could have been there, perhaps at a later show. -Tim (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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To All, Larry stole most of my thunder I had planned, but that's fine. I am extremely tired after this weekend. I have over a hundred pictures from the show, and I will try to get them on Brickshelf ASAP, I fought with it over 2 hours last night and (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.trains)
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Congrats, guys. I look forward to seeing a deluge of pics. Shows are always exciting but you never forget the first one. Just for the sake of asking, is the group here strictly a subset of MichLUG or an 'LTC-proper? Sounds like you learned allot, (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Dan it is a LTC proper...MLTC (...) Myself personally i haven't seen that site however others in our group may have. (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I inhaled it long ago... I doubt there's any successful group that hasn't benefited from that primer. I know that when I give advice to groups (and I give it to a lot of groups) I point to it... It's a must read. ++Lar (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Youre' description is to me what bells were to Pavlov's dogs... Pics? PLEASE?!?!!? "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G76q7H.Huu@lugnet.com... (...) A (...) PNLTC (...) for (...) request). (...) of (...) Force (...) to (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Tomorrow when I have a high bandwidth connection. Till then, salivate. :-) ++Lar (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Hi Chris, here's the FAQ to which I was referring. No pretenses as a definitive work, just some things PNLTC has experienced: (URL) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes: Hi Larry, thanks for giving these first infos. Now it's like christmas: waiting for the pictures.... I was amazed that everybody has to do some of the experiences for his own again. At our last event (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Well, to a certain extent, advice is easy to give, and some of the things we ran into were things that people in the group (remember, this is a very loosely organized group with no structure, just forming, and many of the group members had (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Scott Sanburn got his uploaded... these are smaller (640x480) pics but faster loading: (URL) has his pics organized by day) This shot of Scott's is a favorite of mine: (URL) as it shows just how MASSIVE the airport terminal is, and frames the (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) Er, let me eat those words. One nosedive was due to me, and was while I was on the controls. I was trying to get the bullet to run as fast as I dared, a middle coach tipped over on a curve (it was the inside of a doubletrack) and was plowed (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Congratulations, MTLC!! Lar, have you forsaken your wandering ways and found an LTC to call home? BTW, Whose on the club logo committee? (...) This airport is very massive and very impressive! I love the huge scale of it and of the other (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Thanks for the Herculean effort to get everything set up. You gentlemen are amazing. And thanks for answering all my questions; trains are not my area of play...yet. Tom Napolitano...tomnap@bersama.net (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.trains)
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Tom, (...) Thank you, sir. We are glad to provide assistance, and I hope you enjoyed the display. Have a great week! Scott S. -- ***...*** Please visit (URL) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.trains)
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In lugnet.trains.org, John Neal (...) Kai,myself ,Larry and Scott all had a hand in it. (...) John,outside dimension was 24 ft.X 23 ft.The opening in the middle was 14 ft.X 8 ft.Total plate count was around 520 (including 32 of the large grey 48 (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Never. I am the man without a country, minister without portfolio, gadfly and general nuisance to LUGs and LTC everywhere. ++Lar (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) That's for sure! ;) Larry was a really nice guy, who kept things in step. We just happen to be closet to Larry, I think. Scott S. -- ***...*** Please visit (URL) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) <snip> (...) Yes!!! congratulations! Impressive showing! (...) Promises, promises ... you haven't made it to NC yet... sheree (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) The airport was awesome! Now only if they offered gray 2x2 tiles in 100 packs... :) Actually the whole layout was very well done. I have to say, I prefer the look of the "baseplate" landscape to the "brick" landscape. There is something about (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Interesting analysis, Kevin. I am curious, would you then advocate using, say a mountain, which is non-LEGO and made out of paper mache? On a related note: it seems to me that TLC used to make their dioramas out of bricks more than they do (...) (23 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I think it varies. (...) They were provided. and they were NOT the same height, and not level. This caused much trouble. They WERE in good repair. No one on the Detroit side of the state (this is a club that just formed for this show) has (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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I will say that I liked the baseplate look (I wish I had that many plates for the NGLTC layout, but for now the tables are painted base plate green) but it looked like it had a few draw backs. For one I don't think you'd have a lot of flexibility in (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) a (...) it Absolutely not! I'm a purist to the point that I don't even like homemade stickers. Besides, mountains are supposed to be rough and 3-dimensional. The effect that I like is when you see a scene (or picture) that has nothing but LEGO (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) When i designed that on track designer i was going for the "city block" look.We were able to get a ton of plates(over 400) from TLC so i really wasn't forced into that design.When we walked in there(to setup) i had the road allready designed (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes: OK, I FINALLY got all the pics from my camera uploaded. 8 wide fans, take particular note of the pics starting here (URL) be warned they are very slow loading... Enjoy. ++Lar (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) It's good to see they helped out like that. Did that include road plates and runway plates or just green 32x32's? KL (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) 200 green 32x32's, 192 straight road, 26 T roads ,32 grey 48x48 and trees.Funny thing on the trees is they told me if i needed anything else other then the plates that i could get it at cost.So i told them give me $100 worth of the large (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Is that dust on the engine part of a weathering effect? :) -- James J. Trobaugh North Georgia LEGO Train Club (URL) Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G78Fw0.FsE@lugnet.com... (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) No, I think Steve just has had those built a while. He appeared Saturday, said he read LUGNet(tm) and did we want to see his trains? <grin> ... which he brought in on Sunday. Both the GP30 and the Big Boy are his. ++Lar (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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James & All, Not knowing what train you are referring to, I am sure my trains are the dustiest, as they sat on the shelf for awhile, all the other people's trains looked good. Scott "Dust smacks" S. -- Want LEGO Elements at Great Prices? Visit The (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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In lugnet.trains.org, James Trobaugh writes: <snip> (...) You could do it in sections like I did for the last show that WAMALUG (and coincidently I) did. Keeping it to one 32 long X 'N' wide sections, you can do a faily decent mountain. Rich -- Have (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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In lugnet.trains.org, James Trobaugh writes: <snip> (...) You could do it in sections like I did for the last show that WAMALUG (and coincidently I) did. Keeping it to one 32 long X 'N' wide sections, you can do a faily decent mountain. Rich -- Have (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Scott Sanburn wrote in message ... (...) Hmmm... you're the closet that Larry's coming out of? :-) Kevin ---...--- Victorian House: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (URL) store: (URL) auctions: (URL) Lego Web page: (URL) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) indeed: and even nosediving engines offer lots of fun (and memorable moments), after you have survived the first shock and found out nothong important is broken... (...) That's in fact planned for the next meeting. (...) Ok, that's the (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Yes, but I don't like to take reduced resolution pics... and I didn't have the time to go through and make them smaller. So I dumped them all up with no QC (...) ++Lar (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Er, that is, I am *trying* to delete it but not having any luck... ++Lar (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I usually try to crop or reduce the size of pictures, but it certainly adds time to the process. What would be nice is if Brickshelf had some way to specify on your viewing the max picture size you wanted to see, and then it would auto-scale (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) My collection outgrew closets long ago. Now it's threatening to outgrow the entire basement. :-) Oh, you mean *that* closet. Well I do want/need to put a rainbow sticker on my car, it's true, but I'm happy with the side of the bread my butter (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That's OK, Scott--the festoons of dust flying off just added a nice effect. Artificial smoke without the chemical smell =) I just wanted to add that I, too, had a lot of fun at the show. The whole thing was great. The best part was when kids (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Peter & All, (...) the (...) trains (...) effect. (...) That was a bad smell, maybe they can shoot some air freshener in that smoke maker. Nice effect, though. : ) (...) And (...) Indeed, the kids enjoyed it, but I bet the AFOL'S enjoyed it more, (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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[snip] Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G77JA4.7Mx@lugnet.com... (...) image. That would be your first clue that these images are *way* too big for most folks. Thanks for sharing Larry, but these pictures would be (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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This is AMAZING -- love the airport! David "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G77JA4.7Mx@lugnet.com... (...) :-) (...) from (...) image. (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) Thanks David.I actually had to finish it as the show was going.It didn't make the trip there to well.Most of it was done but before the show but transporting it took a big toll on it.I will redesign it a little to make it alot stronger.It also (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) You know perfumes are chemicals too! Oh...sure...all chemicals stink. Chris (cmasi@cmasi.CHEM.tulane.edu) (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Since I haven't sat down and figured out how to automatically resize and rename a bunch of pictures at once inside of the tool I use, the time to reformat all of them wasn't available to me. So it came down to those or none. I chose those (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) And in case it's not apparant, Lar - some folks appreciate your larger pics, so please don't assume from the negative comments that its not worth the effort - it is. Thanks, James (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains, lugnet.town)
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(...) <snip> (...) Quite right - as you should. Are we the only two here (now that Matt isn't around much) who think (of train layouts) in three dimensions? 8-) (...) I was planning to use multiple gapped controllers at Supertrain2001, but hadn't (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Might I be able to borrow the trees (and any extra straights and switches) for Supertrain2001 one month from (yesterday and) today? SRC StRuCtures (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I think in 3 dimensions too but on a plywooder layout with no terrain, a bunch of ramps and bridges tend to make things look more toylike unless there is some clear justification for the bridges (to cross over another line for a plausible (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Email and we will talk.CWLeach (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I assure you, the GMLTC thinks in three dimensions. The layout we're working on now will have trains running at least four different heights, and maybe five if we can squeeze one more into the design... We try to put "interesting" things at (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I thought there was rule that at some point on the layout the trains had to cross over each other. ;-) The layout we are working on has a climb into a mountain, where a ski resort will be and three tunnels to provide transaction from scene to (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) A problem we encountered with wiring was wire length. Because we did not have enough long (Mindstorms) wires we had to place controllers in inconvienent places. If you are not a 100% purist you should consider making some long exteneders. Some (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) Incedentially, we used some of the trees to stablize the plates. We placed trees on the four corners junctions of four plates to lock them into position. The plates were green and so were the tree bases. You might also want to dig up som 2x2 (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) It involves cutting but no gluing or painting! How about soldering--is that a fourth deadly sin, a subset of gluing (joining?), or is it just venial? Peter (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I'd say a subset of gluing, but what about the electrical tape... :-) SRC StRuCtures (23 years ago, 20-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) I assumed that TLC uses drawn/computerized backgrounds so that no one can claim they are being misleading about the contents of the package. For instance, on the 3225 Classic Train, they used drawn-in track instead of real track, because there (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Right. That drawn track (and glowing cave, etc) have been there since the start of 9V. Mayhaps J2 is referring to catalog illustrations, though? PS, I heard I left my vitamins at Chris's, did you happen to get those? I wouldn't want to have to (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Nope. I've got your track and Z'nap bridge, though. Steve (23 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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