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Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe)
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Fri, 28 May 1999 23:03:29 GMT
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On Thu, 27 May 1999 13:44:46 GMT, Richard Hrynyszyn uttered the following
profundities...
In lugnet.starwars, Jonathan Little writes:
In lugnet.starwars, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.starwars, ljorgensen@uswest.net (Lee Jorgensen) writes:
<SPOILERAGE>
May include book spoilerage!!!























(hopefully this is enough)

At the end of TPM, Yoda and Mace were discussing the Sith, and I believe
that Yoda said "There are always two, a master and an apprentice."

So what about the end of RotJ, where both Vader and the Emporer (I don't
remember his name), both die?  Does this mean that the Sith are 'extinct'
again?

I don't think they meant that there were always supposed to be exactly two
Sith...I think they meant that whenever there was one, there was another --
meaning Sith in pairs rather than alone.

--Todd

The way it's explained in the novelization of ep 1 (and may be common • knowledge
to the real SW fans) was that a billion years ago, or something, one rebel • Jedi
pulled toward the dark side, and began recruiting followers. The numbers grew
very fast, and before long there were a couple hundred in the ranks. Then they
all turned on each other, killing the entire group. Since then, there have • been
only and exacly two members: the master and the apprentice. I may have flubbed
the telling of this a bit, so if anyone wants to clean it up, go right ahead.
-Jonathan

     Below is a small excerpt from the EP1 Novelization by Terry Brooks that
explains the Sith:


    The Sith had come into being almost two thousand years ago.  They
were a cult given over to the dark side of the Force, embracing fully
the concept that power denied was power wasted.  A rouge Jedi Knight had
founded the Sith, a singular dissident in an order of harmoniou
followers, a rebel who understood from the beginning that the real power
of the Force lay not in the light, but in the dark  Failing to gain
approval for his beliefs from the Council, he had broken with the order,
departing with his knowledge and his skills, swearing in secret that he
could bring down those who had dissmissed him.

    He was alone at first, but others from the Jedi order who believed
as he did and who had followed him in his study of the dark side soon
came over.  Others were recuited, and soon the ranks of the Sith swelled
to more than fifty in number.  Disdaining the concepts of cooperation
and consensus, relying on the belief that acquisition of power in any
form lends strength and yields control, the Sith began to build their
cult in opposition to the Jedi.

    Their war with the Jedi was vengeful and furious and ultimately
doomed.  The rouge Jedi who founded the Sith order was its nominal
leader, but his ambition excluded any sharing of power.  His disciples
began to conspire against him and each other almost from the begining,
so that the war they instigated was as much with each other as with the
Jedi.

    In the end, the Sith destroyed themselves.  They destroyed their
leader first, then each other.  What few survived the initial bloodbath
were quickly dispatched by watchful Jedi.  In a matter of only weeks,
all of them died.

    All but one.

    Darth Maul shifted impatiently.  The younger Sith had not yet
learned his Master's patience; that would come with time and training.
It was patience that had saved the Sith order in the end.  It was
patience that would give them their victory now over the Jedi.

    The Sith who had survived when all of his fellows had died had
understood that.  He had adopted patience as a virtue when the others
had forsaken it.  He had adopted cunning, stealth, and subterfuge as the
foundation of his way -- old Jedi virtues the others had disdained.  He
stood aside while the Sith tore at each other like kriks and were
destroyed.  When the carnage was complete, he went into hiding, biding
his time, waiting for his change.

    When it was believed all of the Sith were destroyed, he emerged from
his concealment.  At first he worked alone, but he was growing old and
he was the last of his kind.  Eventually, he went out in search of an
apprentice.  Finding one, he trained him to be a Master in his turn,
then to find his own apprentice, and so to carry on their work.  But
there would only be two at any one time.  There would be no repetition
of the mistakes of the old order, no struggle between Siths warring for
power within the cult.  Their common enemy was the Jedi, not each
other.  It was for their war with the Jedi they must save themselves.

    The Sith who reinvented the order called himself Darth Bane.

    A thousand years had passed since the Sith were believed destroyed,
and the time they had waited for had come at last.

Thanks for the extract.
It strikes me as odd, when in five and six, they always
detect the most minor disturbance in the force. Is it such
that in one that there are then so many that they cannot
sense the dark-side disturbance and know the Sith have
reappeared?
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