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Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler)
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Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:50 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:
Basically, Yoda
was seeing fear of the unknown in Anakin rather than some other type of
fear.  And fear of the unknown means fear of the future consequences/events,
and we know that "always emotion is the future."  There's something deeper
going on here, I think (I hope :-).

Sorry to nit-pick, Todd, but your quote of Yoda is wrong...

The actual line is:

"Always in motion is the future..."

What really got me was that Lucas seems to have broken continuity himself rather
badly... In TESB, Obi Wan tells Luke, "You must go to the Degobah System...
There you will find Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed me."  Later, he tells
Yoda, "Was I any different [less headstrong] when you taught me?"

The only way out of this contradiction is if <supposition> Qui Gon Jinn trained
Obi Wan as a Padawan, but now that Qui Gon is dead, Obi Wan's further Jedi
Knight training must be under someone else (Yoda).

Of course, we could always attribute it to Obi Wan's "certain point of view" :-)
but I think this would be a very lazy way out...

BTW, I also REALLY HATED the fact that they "explained" the Force in such a
rediculous way... Better a mysterious and mystical energy field... IMO.

--Karim



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  Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler)
 
(...) d'Oh! Thanks for the correction! -- that makes a lot more sense now. Shame on me, and I even have the RotJ script book. :-( (...) Hmm, good call. Very odd. Hmm...so was OWK ever (in Ep4) supposed to have been a Jedi Master? Or was he still (...) (25 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
  Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler)
 
(...) rather (...) trained (...) Well, this actually bugs me, too, but: At the beginning of the film, Obi-Wan does say that "Master Yoda told me I should be mindful of the future". So, perhaps Yoda trained him from when he was very small, *then* (...) (25 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
  Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler)
 
(...) Well, this is the man who described the events between EP1 and EP4 as 'Darth Vader murdered your father'. So apparently, total honesty is not a requirement for Jedi knighthood. (...) I totally agree. Steve (25 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)

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  Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe)
 
(...) [SPOILERS/SPECULATION] : : : : : : I had to wonder how badly Shmi even really wanted to be freed. For some reason, she told Anakin not to look back, and he literally pushed him on his way when they finally parted. And the fact that she wears a (...) (25 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)

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