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Re: A few things...
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Tue, 31 May 2005 14:01:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

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   Correct. Because then we would have been satisfied that he didn’t have WMDs at his disposal to possibly provide to terrorists.

What WMD’s????

The ones the UN believed that he hadn’t destroyed.


...based on a case made by the USA.

Yes. Point?

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No John. It is a question directed at you. I shall try again:

Can you list any terror acts against the USA which SH sponsored?


Who knows? I know he aided and abetted terrorists. Whether they were the actually ones involved in terrorism against the US is anyone’s guess. The point is that he was a friend of terrorism and an enemy to freedom as well as our allies-- we took him out.

  
  
  
   He used WMDs against his own people.

Yep, and he got them from Washington.

I don’t care if he got them from Uranus, it doesn’t justify using them.

What is the difference between gassing Kurds and napalming civilians? Why not start with your own backyard?

Squirm. Stay on topic or lose me forever.
  
  
  
   That means that he had no compunction with associating with such swine (I chose “swine” because it is particularily offensive to Muslims) or murdering innocents on a massive scale.

What about Washington’s support for “such swine” and its “murdering innocents on a massive scale”?

See WWII Stalin ally argument.

Lol. The Nazi war machine rolled up a whole continent like a fireside rug. There is no comparison.

Sorry. The comparison is spot on. We formed a sort of unholy alliance with SH when the greater enema was the Ayatolla of Iran. Same with Stalin against the Nazis. Get it?
  
  
  
   That made him public enema number one.

No. Spin did that. It fooled people like you.

And, apparently, Clinton as well...

...you sound like you respect his judgment?

No, thought you did, which is why I mentioned him.

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   The threat of continued mass extermination of innocent Iraqis at the hands of SH is gone.

Now the mass graves in Iraq are Bush’s making... and that of his rabid supporters.

Add up body counts if you want to play the numbers game. US colateral civilian damage vs SH slaughter total.

OK. Show me that SH’s ‘kill rate’ in the year before the war was greater than the time since.

Boring. I’m too busy to prove the obvious to you.
  
  
  
   The word is out to terrorists and those who would sponsor terrorism-- the days of impotent UN sanctions and resolutions are gone-- we mean business, and we aren’t afraid to act; offensively if necessary.

But you are afraid to think. You should think about why the threat exists.

You have no idea why the threat exists. You think it is our fault. It is, if you mean that we don’t happen to believe in radical Islam. Even garden-variety Muslims aren’t safe from this threat! Don’t you get that????
  
  
<snip> OT comment.
  
  
And if we hadn’t taken the fight to the terrorists, do you honestly believe that the US would have gone almost 4 years without a follow-up attack from OBL? If so, you are deluding yourself.

Everything I’ve read about the 911 attackers leads me to feel they may have been a bunch of incompetent twits that outwitted another bunch of incompetent twits in the USA and Germany.

I rest my case that what you read is crap.

JOHN



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(...) OK; so you can't list any then. (...) So you're guessing now? (...) No doubt the Uzbeks say the same about the USA. (...) So basically, you spent billions and killed tens of thousands to help Israel hold on to illegally obtained land? (...) (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) ...based on a case made by the USA. (...) Bush trusted him, why don't you? (...) No John. It is a question directed at you. I shall try again: Can you list any terror acts against the USA which SH sponsored? (...) What is the difference (...) (19 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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