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Re: A few things...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 27 May 2005 07:53:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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Snipped bunches. Some I agree with (the venality of leaders everywhere, but
certainly in the US) and some I don’t (it’s not just “about the oil!”)...
focusing on one bit.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
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I saw John’s silly time machine retort. I agree that its important to start
with this. Not everyone wanted to go into Iraq, and those that were against
were right, and we ought to be respecting this and listening harder. And we
ought to be drawing this lesson for the next time this comes up (in respect
of say, North Korea, or Syria, or Iran, or Libya, or Saudi Arabia)
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What I’m not seeing the current participants in this debate providing is
anything beyond “we told you so”... I’m against the war too, I was from the
start, but I think it’s important and valid to ask “ok, so what would you do
NOW?” That IS a legitimate question and it IS legitimate to ask it and expect
some answer to evaluate.
No one’s answering. Which makes this debate not all that interesting really,
because it’s a hard and important question. It’s easy to berate past actions
but tougher to actually propose a plan.
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I’m not sure I agree with any of your summary. However, think about this: If I
catch you having sex with your cat; do I have to offer you an alternative in
order to suggest you stop? Or is up to you to find an alternative?
Scott A
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No one’s proposing. What we see instead is questions answered with more
questions and positions that can’t be pinned down. Yawn. Answer the hard
questions and I’ll be more impressed.
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| (...) BIGOT! <okay, only kidding> (...) My point which I believe Lar picked up on is this: you expressed laments about continued support for the war. So, I asked, what should we do? Leave? You responded by saying we shouldn't have gone in the first (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| Snipped bunches. Some I agree with (the venality of leaders everywhere, but certainly in the US) and some I don't (it's not just "about the oil!")... focusing on one bit. (...) What I'm not seeing the current participants in this debate providing is (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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