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Re: A few things...
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Fri, 27 May 2005 03:33:26 GMT
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Snipped bunches. Some I agree with (the venality of leaders everywhere, but
certainly in the US) and some I don’t (it’s not just “about the oil!”)...
focusing on one bit.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
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I saw John’s silly time machine retort. I agree that its important to start
with this. Not everyone wanted to go into Iraq, and those that were against
were right, and we ought to be respecting this and listening harder. And we
ought to be drawing this lesson for the next time this comes up (in respect
of say, North Korea, or Syria, or Iran, or Libya, or Saudi Arabia)
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What I’m not seeing the current participants in this debate providing is
anything beyond “we told you so”... I’m against the war too, I was from the
start, but I think it’s important and valid to ask “ok, so what would you do
NOW?” That IS a legitimate question and it IS legitimate to ask it and expect
some answer to evaluate.
No one’s answering. Which makes this debate not all that interesting really,
because it’s a hard and important question. It’s easy to berate past actions but
tougher to actually propose a plan.
No one’s proposing. What we see instead is questions answered with more
questions and positions that can’t be pinned down. Yawn. Answer the hard
questions and I’ll be more impressed.
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| (...) Here are a few thoughts--not sure how feasible they are, and some will require greater diplomacy than is currently available to the administration. 1. Get rid of Bush. His handling of this entire debacle has been nightmarishly inept and (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I'm not sure I agree with any of your summary. However, think about this: If I catch you having sex with your cat; do I have to offer you an alternative in order to suggest you stop? Or is up to you to find an alternative? Scott A (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) No, there really doesn't seem to be much support in any quarter. And the remaining pro war camp is much quieter and harder to draw (apart from the determined political apologist rearguard, and the shrill cries of the mindless faithful), (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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