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Re: A few things...
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Thu, 26 May 2005 19:54:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:

   Does anyone still support this daft war?

What do you propose?

Certainly not marriage!

You have something against marriage?

To you? Yes!

Now it is I who must ask you what on earth are you talking about!
  
  
   What on earth are you talking about John?

Well, you obviously don’t support the war, so what would you advocate instead? That we all go home tomorrow?

I would not have rushed there to start with.

So, you’d advocate somehow going back in time and not rushing in.

I’d suggest a little humility is in order.

  
  
   Or do you prefer just to sit around and complain about things? (which is your perogative, but not very interesting)

Well, given the mess people like YOU got us in,

The “mess” meaning liberating the Iraqis from the yoke of dictatorship?

...and replacing it with violent anarchy. That’s what I call progress!

   The “mess” in helping the Iraqis defeat foreign terrorists who would destroy their young democracy?

Hmm. I recall reading that only ~5% of the insurgents were “foreign” and the majority of Iraqis want Bush to pack his bags.

BTW: there is much more to democracy than bombing a country and giving the survivors a vote.

   You know, BTW, life is messy...

Do you care to move to Baghdad for a few months to put your “messy” life in some perspective?

  
   I suppose I’d start by trying to hand over power to Iraqis.

Fine. That happens to be the plan.

To be honest, I’m not convinced that there is any sort of plan whatsoever!

  
   I would NOT rig their constitution

Who would?

Clue: The same person hoped to install a convicted fraudster as leader once Baghdad fell.

  
   or setup permanent bases in their country.

What’s wrong with that? Worked in Germany. Worked in Japan. Worked in South Korea.

Should Iraqis not be consulted? It is a democracy after all!

  
   I would NOT limit the training of the Iraqi armed forces to light weapons.

Thought you didn’t like “rushing in”. In time.

It is not in Bush’s interests for Iraq to have a competent law enforcement service. Think about it.


  
   I WOULD show that Iraqi lives ARE worth something by risking lives to protect them(they are human beings after all!).

Possibly the most daft thing you’ve ever said. The ignorance of it is simply staggering.

Iraqi lives are so worthless, we do not even count the deaths we bring about. Instead, we bulldoze their bodies into our very own mass graves.


  
   I’d STOP human rights abuses.

No undies on heads of prisoners. Got it.

I was thinking more of murder and torture.

  
   I would NOT rely on support from (or give support to) barbaric regimes.

Not germane.

To you, perhaps. But when “freedom” is based on torture and murder, questions must be asked.

  
   Oh, and I’d also put B.Liar and the man-monkey on trial for breaking international law.


Your characterizations say more about you than them.

…and your blind support for Bush tells us a great deal about you.

  
   What would you do? Carry on regardless I expect?! Afterall, if it’s not broke, why fix it!


Things are getting better every day in Iraq. The Iraqis will prevail.

Complete poppycock! What is your source? Read this before you tell us: “A United Nations survey released earlier this month found that Iraqi living standards had been plummeting with only just over half of the population having access to safe drinking water.”

Like I said, it is people like YOU that got us in this mess. You really are a “useful idiot”.

Scott A

  
JOHN



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(...) If you humbley say so yourself? ;-) (...) Anarchy? Where are you getting your information? (...) Now I must really question your sources, because what you have just said could not be further from the truth! Virtually all if not all of the (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Now it is I who must ask you what on earth are you talking about! (...) So, you'd advocate somehow going back in time and not rushing in. (...) The "mess" meaning liberating the Iraqis from the yoke of dictatorship? The "mess" in helping the (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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